Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x05 - "Through the Lens of Time"

[Ovation]

I'm sorry, what? This episode is now many years after The Cage. And Pike met Vina AGAIN in Discovery. (Or other crew did. It's been a long time since I've seen the Talos IV episode.)

Burnham, Spock, and Pike met Vina in that episode.

 

[The Wormhole]

I'm sorry, what? This episode is now many years after The Cage. And Pike met Vina AGAIN in Discovery. (Or other crew did. It's been a long time since I've seen the Talos IV episode.)

True, plus SNW has also done a a follow-up episode regarding the Enterprise's mission to Rigel, the disastrous mission which happened just prior to The Cage which resulted in heavy losses, among them Pike's Yeoman, who we actually survived in S2's Among the Lotus Eaters.

And yes, Pike did reunite with Vina in that Disco episode.

 

[Jag2112]

Ahh okay thanks for the reminder. This also makes me wonder if despite the regeneration Dr. M'Benga was attempting -- even without the issue of the malevolent being pretty much inhabiting that poor guy's dead carcass (in the most basic way -- I mean, his BRAIN was gone) -- was more or less an experimental treatment at that point. Maybe it became like Holodeck tech... shelved until a future date.

"Brain and brain! What is brain?!"

 

[Pauln6]

"Brain and brain! What is brain?!"

We need it for many science reasons.

 

[XCV330]

Solid 9. Nice and creepy.

The "Curiouser and Curiouser" line by Spock was a nice throwback to Discovery and Spock and Michael having their mom read Alice in Wonderland to them. I like little touches like that.

The "we're going to need a bigger boat" reference was good too.

 

[MarcKyle1964]

Burnham, Spock, and Pike met Vina in that episode.

Me too. I goofed on how recent that was. Mea culpa (beats back with thorny vines) It was 13 years ago in The Menagerie. It all seemed sooner to me because Nimoy didn't really age between The Cage and The Menagerie.

I haven't watched much of Discovery, life got in the way, I didn't even own a TV in the decade it came out. The few episodes I saw were at friend's houses or Trek parties.

 

[XCV330]

Funny thing about the alien script is that it’s apparently veeery limited. Take that shot of the tablet they found; it only seems to consist of three distinct symbols that are only rotated and oriented differently.

not unknown. Cree syllabics manages a syllabary (realistically more complicated than an alphabet) with a few basic shapes.

 

[Mr Awe]

It was about the comparative complexity of kidneys versus eyes and their connections. Factually the retina is more complex than the kidney. Optical light bending is only the beginning of how an eye works, and it's the retina that matters here. There are no cameras that can replace the retina. Relativity is the key here. All organs are somewhat complex seen by themselves, includeling the kiddleys, but relative to the neural circuitry, synaptic connections, sheer processing power, the retina is less simple than the kidney. That's all I said, diddle I?

There are cameras that far exceed the eye's capabilities while there's nothing anywhere near close to replicating kidney functions. Pretty straightforward. Thanks for playing though. But I'm sure this isn't the time or place for this discussion!

 

[1001001]

There are cameras that far exceed the eye's capabilities while there's nothing anywhere near close to replicating kidney functions.

Except for dialysis, sure.

 

[fireproof78]

Except for dialysis, sure.

In the Awe Mister's defense he already mentioned that and noted the difference in functionality, and the appropriate thought to the complexity of the kidney compared to the eye.

I'm not quite sure what you think you're getting at but factually artificial kidneys lag far behind artificial optics because the kidney’s job is far more chemically complex. Optics rely on well-understood physics to bend and focus light, and engineers have mastered that with lenses and sensors. The kidney, by contrast, must filter blood, selectively reabsorb vital substances, regulate electrolytes and blood pressure, balance pH, and produce hormones — all in real time. Current artificial kidneys, like dialysis machines, can only mimic part of this and require bulky, intermittent treatments. In short, we can build cameras that rival or surpass the eye’s optics, but we’re nowhere close to fully replacing a kidney’s full range of functions.

 

[1001001]

Well, I suppose it’s a matter of degree. People live a longer time using a dialysis machine, so they definitely work.

Anyway, it’s not that important. I’m happy to give up the argument.