Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x05 - "Through the Lens of Time"
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It clashes a little bit with Spock (temporarily) going blind and no one talking about replacement eyes.
He opted to keep the VISOR in later times, but season two tells us that he didn't choose it over new eyes originally.
Pulaski: "There is another option. I can attempt to regenerate your optic nerve, and, with the help of the replicator, fashion normal eyes. You would see like everyone else."
LaForge: "Wait a minute. I was told that was impossible."
Pulaski: "I've done it twice, in situations somewhat similar to yours."
Ahh okay thanks for the reminder. This also makes me wonder if despite the regeneration Dr. M'Benga was attempting -- even without the issue of the malevolent being pretty much inhabiting that poor guy's dead carcass (in the most basic way -- I mean, his BRAIN was gone) -- was more or less an experimental treatment at that point. Maybe it became like Holodeck tech... shelved until a future date.
Are we sure that Gamble is really gone?
Enjoyable, mysterious episode. I loved the resolution of the landing party being split up. Pelia is a crack-up!
Enjoyable, mysterious episode. I loved the resolution of the landing party being split up. Pelia is a crack-up!
TOS Trek movies had medicine that could regrow kidneys so new eyes should be possible
For all the buzz about SNW's rotation of genres, it's interesting what a horror-focused season this is. Three out of five episodes have been horror.
I really liked this episode. I might say I loved it, but I still have some Disco PTSD that stresses me out when I encounter serialized setup for future events in nuTrek.
As is often the case with SNW, the biggest drawback was that I just wanted more of so many things... we're jumping ahead with Spock/La'an the same way we did with Spock/Chapel, and it would be so great to be able to take more time on those relationships.
Similarly, when the away team gets separated, each pairing has so much dramatic potential that I wish we had spent more time exploring those tensions.
But I do love everything we get. This was a lot of my favorite Trek tropes (possession, ancient civilizations and their mysterious remnants), all done exceptionally well, and using the modern tech to scale up dramatically from what we've seen before. It kept making me think of tie-in novels, which used to be the only place where Trek characters could make discoveries of this scale.
I really liked this episode. I might say I loved it, but I still have some Disco PTSD that stresses me out when I encounter serialized setup for future events in nuTrek.
As is often the case with SNW, the biggest drawback was that I just wanted more of so many things... we're jumping ahead with Spock/La'an the same way we did with Spock/Chapel, and it would be so great to be able to take more time on those relationships.
Similarly, when the away team gets separated, each pairing has so much dramatic potential that I wish we had spent more time exploring those tensions.
But I do love everything we get. This was a lot of my favorite Trek tropes (possession, ancient civilizations and their mysterious remnants), all done exceptionally well, and using the modern tech to scale up dramatically from what we've seen before. It kept making me think of tie-in novels, which used to be the only place where Trek characters could make discoveries of this scale.
I actually enjoyed that the Spock/La'an relationship is apparently commonly known at least among the bridge crew and they are not making a big deal out of it. Basically, not a casual thing, but not the typical drama filled classical couple either. Just friends realizing a mutual attraction and enjoying time together.
We're now at 3 episodes this season where they've tied some element of the episode to TNG, not quite breaking canon but definitely bending it enough to the point where we're noticing lol.
Conceptually, I think this was the most interesting episode this season, although I'm a bit torn on the execution as a whole. The more horrorful elements were really well done. The grenade explosion in particular was really affecting, and we've seen enough of Gamble that his corruption/death was honestly a surprise. I did like the idea of the multi-phasic room, but I never really felt any tension there. The CGI background work tried to do a lot of the heavy lifting, as they mostly stood around in (literally) the same place, but I wonder if they had made it feel more claustrophobic or maze-like if it would've worked better. I do think the foreshadowing they're doing towards Korby's fate is well done, as they're establishing him as a competent expert, but clearly with certain... fascinations.
There were two things I didn't care for. Firstly, I thought the dialog, especially at the beginning of the episode, prior to the opening credits, was really awkwardly written. I'm not sure it's all that different than any of the other episodes, but something about it actively caught my attention as being really clunky as a whole. Secondly, the Batel/Gamble fight was... weird. I'm really doubting Batel survives this season, and her turning into a Gorn seems more and more likely. We'll see how the final execution plays out, but for now it just comes off as a bit goofy to me. (It actually reminded me a bit of that Pah'Wraith Kira/Jake fight, when they squared up at each other).
Finally, congrats on Scotty becoming a Pokemon trainer.
Conceptually, I think this was the most interesting episode this season, although I'm a bit torn on the execution as a whole. The more horrorful elements were really well done. The grenade explosion in particular was really affecting, and we've seen enough of Gamble that his corruption/death was honestly a surprise. I did like the idea of the multi-phasic room, but I never really felt any tension there. The CGI background work tried to do a lot of the heavy lifting, as they mostly stood around in (literally) the same place, but I wonder if they had made it feel more claustrophobic or maze-like if it would've worked better. I do think the foreshadowing they're doing towards Korby's fate is well done, as they're establishing him as a competent expert, but clearly with certain... fascinations.
There were two things I didn't care for. Firstly, I thought the dialog, especially at the beginning of the episode, prior to the opening credits, was really awkwardly written. I'm not sure it's all that different than any of the other episodes, but something about it actively caught my attention as being really clunky as a whole. Secondly, the Batel/Gamble fight was... weird. I'm really doubting Batel survives this season, and her turning into a Gorn seems more and more likely. We'll see how the final execution plays out, but for now it just comes off as a bit goofy to me. (It actually reminded me a bit of that Pah'Wraith Kira/Jake fight, when they squared up at each other).
Finally, congrats on Scotty becoming a Pokemon trainer.
I was worried this wasn’t going to click with me early on in the episode because they were really going hard on the romance pair-ups, but once it picked it up, it seldom let go. Great ep, and I’m looking forward to seeing more from this thread.
Also, I hate to say it, but I’m glad Gamble had a tragic arc. His inclusion felt weirdly forced at the start of the season, so I was hoping he was being used as a plot point, and he sure was. I can appreciate his character far more on rewatches.
Also, I hate to say it, but I’m glad Gamble had a tragic arc. His inclusion felt weirdly forced at the start of the season, so I was hoping he was being used as a plot point, and he sure was. I can appreciate his character far more on rewatches.
I enjoyed it! A new and unique looking alien species, even though we only saw one of them. The interdimensional puzzle was interesting too. I'm not thrilled that they seem to be teasing a galaxy level threat again by introducing the Vedza, but if they do it like last season at least they won't be the focus of every episode. Batel definitely seems to be working toward Gorn Queen now.
When they introduced him it felt a lot like the random redshirt the TNG crew had suddenly known all their lives. So I was definitely expecting something like this.
When they introduced him it felt a lot like the random redshirt the TNG crew had suddenly known all their lives. So I was definitely expecting something like this.
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Well, that wasn't' creepy at all... <shivers>
I guess whatever it is being imprisoned in the orbs has had dealings with the Gorn before, or perhaps it is so malevolent that all long living societies have it encoded in their DNA to recognize it.
I wonder if the El-Aurians & Q have encountered these entities.
I gave the episode a 9, partly because it reminded me of the TOS episodes that creeped me out as a kid and the fact that I enjoyed it.
I guess whatever it is being imprisoned in the orbs has had dealings with the Gorn before, or perhaps it is so malevolent that all long living societies have it encoded in their DNA to recognize it.
I wonder if the El-Aurians & Q have encountered these entities.
I gave the episode a 9, partly because it reminded me of the TOS episodes that creeped me out as a kid and the fact that I enjoyed it.
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