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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x04 - "A Space Adventure Hour"

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Planet of the week disaster, never to be mentioned again.

Though there was one exception, which pissed off Kahn to no end.
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Plus, special appearances by either Trek characters or random pop culture figures.

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Plus, special appearances by either Trek characters or random pop culture figures.

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To be fair it was cross promotion on the Network Voyager was airing on with a show that was airing the night after. But the Rock being on Star Trek is something no one can ever take away. It might have been stunt casting, but it was unique stunt casting.
 
Have they ever explained (in any of the ST shows) why the holodeck has the option to remove safety protocols?
I am trying a tad hard to understand why a ship would allow this. My only theory is that they have it this way as a sort of last resort defense against invaders.
 
Have they ever explained (in any of the ST shows) why the holodeck has the option to remove safety protocols?
I am trying a tad hard to understand why a ship would allow this. My only theory is that they have it this way as a sort of last resort defense against invaders.

Certain scientific simulations probably don't work accurately with safetys on.
 
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"how can we tie this...inane... whatever... situation/person/thing... to TOS/the Cage/and now even TNG (Holodeck!/Computer, ARCH!) so we can fanservice Old Trekkies and show the new ones we're legit fans making the show. ...

Closing quotes save lives.

I had friends who watched ST II with no idea that there was a TOS episode involving Khan.

I knew it was a sequel to an episode but I had never seen the epsiode.

Have they ever explained (in any of the ST shows) why the holodeck has the option to remove safety protocols?
I am trying a tad hard to understand why a ship would allow this. My only theory is that they have it this way as a sort of last resort defense against invaders.

Debugging feature. Really should be behind some kind of admin code. That the command staff do NOT have.
 
And this is how I define "gimmicky" as done in SNW. I thought I was done with this line of discussion.... ugh.... but I've got to say that it feels a bit like desperation -- "how can we tie this...inane... whatever... situation/person/thing... to TOS/the Cage/and now even TNG (Holodeck!/Computer, ARCH!) so we can fanservice Old Trekkies and show the new ones we're legit fans making the show. Well, if you're a legit fan, make good Star Trek. I loved Those Old Scientists and Subspace Rhapsody as well. I consider them good Star Trek. Not this last one. There was no real reason for an explanation for why we needed to learn why the Holodeck (with the TNG look, for goodness' sake) needed to have an explanation as to why it wasn't used Pre-TOS. Just show something that resembled a kind of a digitized environment that's being used for recreation or research. There was no reason to put on a poorly written episode taking up bandwidth in the midst of a ten-episode string. If this is the way they're going to write Season 4 and 5, I have no issues with the cancelation.

I can't disagree. With reduced episode count, if there's an arc or multiple arcs to tell, that screentime is essential. Like or dislike the show I'm about to mention as reference, "The Orville" was trying to juggle three running arcs - but sped those up while trying to have inane fluff fun episodes. The result was a less satisfying experience all around, especially when some of the arcs and build-ups felt doing something fresh but then they resorted to cheap shortcuts to expedite it just so they could do the fluffy fun, which felt more hollow as a result...

I stumbled on a post in social media* that made an interesting claim in a reply to a post: The episode was trying to suggest how AI recreation of something may be inaccurate as well as a statement about the energy consumption needed, which works rather well in that context so I'm likely siding with them. it's an oddly easy find considering so many replies to the post surrounding that one are saying either the fans need to get a life** and/or they're taking it too seriously. Granted, Trek has done light episodes before that worked and humor is always going to be subjective. But in a day and age now where show makers might when not actually tell the audiences to "go and do something with some green turf outdoors" (can't blame the viewers at that point) or whatever the euphemism is and then wonder why the ratings actually went down because more and more viewers actually took the advice (regardless if the drop is not enough to not renew it for another reason, any new season having a format change will easily say that they're just trying to shift the format to prevent things from getting stale, or it can mean they've ran out of ideas but only the folks in the writers room and producer make any changes to begin with...) So many reasons, at the end of the day there's more to pick than at a nose convention.

The modern shows do remind why TNG placed itself ~80 years into the future, to allow loose continuity and future-building while not tripping over the past. The longer a franchise goes, it's inevitable that something won't quite add up. Not to mention the attitudes and issues of the time, since if people - for example - are forgetting or misinterpreting the then-important reason of miniskirts****, how will current shows be mistaken for in roughly six decades' time from now?


* I don't always provide sources***, but in this instance it's on Reddit' Trek forum:
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(Good luck in wading... or at least get some "lo-cal popcorn"...)

** Smells like 1986 spirit, which becomes a multifaceted analysis in of itself, where's that no-caf coffee so we can drink 10~100x as much to get the comparable amount of caffeine from 1 cup of the regular coffee? (Decaf having 0.1~12mg caffeine, regular caf is 80~120mg, if you believe the AI but I will without any single thought...) Note to self, don't drink anything like 10~100x decaf...

*** mostly out of laziness or to reduce the risk of carpal tunnel, pronounced by most sufferers as "crappy f*** 'ell!!!", but I digress again...

**** Grace Lee Whitney and Nichelle Nichols had discussed what it was like at the time
 
Closing quotes save lives.
LOL! So do commas...

To borrow one of many memes:

"How to cook
crack and
clean a crab"

definitely reads differently than

"How to cook,
crack, and
clean a crab"


That said, the ordering of the instructions doesn't hurt as well since one would want to clean before cooking and cook before cracking... we're assuming that the hapless crustacean there is already down for the count, since applying a scrub brush to a living one might result in some undesired pinching action. Or have it hold some walnuts and multitask in the process, but a lot of seafood is all cholesterol-loaded-fins to begin with...


But I digressed via the tangent.
 
Have they ever explained (in any of the ST shows) why the holodeck has the option to remove safety protocols?
I am trying a tad hard to understand why a ship would allow this. My only theory is that they have it this way as a sort of last resort defense against invaders.
Physical training purposes? Some type of combat training might seem like causing harm, and a human observer would be a better judge of what is going too far.
 
Perhaps because that even though you apparently don't care for it, a whole lot of other folks do.

And please tell me, after 50+ years of Trek Tales, what "Original Ideas" are left that haven't been done before.

The Berman era managed to come up with fresh ideas. Again SNW is relying on TOS. Even the characters. There were unexplored crew members in the cage and where no man has gone before that could have been explored in this series but instead we relied on the TOS crew and we saw Kirk the first season. This show already has more than half the TOS crew and they are recycling their stories. Yawn.
 
He's a film editor who directed a low budget movie called Free Enterprise in the 90s, and was involved as a fan film director in the Axanar imbroglio about a decade ago.

Ah. I heard of free enterprise. Never saw it. I also remember axanar. An interesting project but it killed quality fan films.
 
Hell, Kirk marries, conceives a child and both the mother and child die in a stoning attack by local natives. Miramanee is never again mentioned in onscreen canon.
Tbf that was an episode in the third season. So there was not enough time to mention it again. 😂
 
There's endless original stories you can tell in Star Trek, it's a blend of pulp sci-fi and fantasy which doesn't rely on consistent rules or physical laws. Just come up with any high-concept hook and you're off.

It's a universe of sentient nebulas, cyberpunk megalopolises, knights and barbarians, godlike entities, post-apocalyptic deserts, other realities, entirely non-human forms of life... the only limit on the number of stories it can contain is set by the writers' imaginations.
 
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