Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x04 - "A Space Adventure Hour"

[Greg Cox]

So, I guess my expectations are different in that I don't mind Inconsistencies because that's always been apart of my watching experience.

Ditto. Along with TOS, I grew on the original Universal Monster movies, Hammer Horror films, the early Bond movies, Ray Harryhausen SINBAD movies, the Johnny Weissmuller TARZAN movies, etc..

So, yeah, a somewhat laissez-faire approach to continuity, as opposed to the modern obsession with "canon" and "timelines," doesn't strike me as a crime against fandom.

And, honestly, I think there's a case to be made for remembering that STAR TREK is supposed to be fun and exciting as well as high-minded and "cerebral." And for not getting too bent out of shape about "canon."

(Dare I admit that I'm listening to the soundtrack of The Seventh Voyage of Sinbad as I type this?)

 

[Racefuel]

He is a documentary maker and, arguably, an expert on Star Trek history. He is an ardent critic of the Kurzman era, and while his criticisms aren't uninformed, he has been a poster child for the Fandom Menace types.

I know the Trek community has always had them...but I dread seeing the kind of abuse that Ahmed Best and such experienced in the SW community

 

[Starflight]

As a kid I hated holodeck episodes because... we're in space! We're in a pulpy adventure setting where anything can happen! The supposed benefit of the holodeck is that you can "go anywhere", but you can already go anywhere in Star Trek just by beaming down to a planet, where you could have a far more interesting adventure than in Dixon Hill!

I don't mind stuff like The Killing Game where the plot is largely external and the holodeck is being used as a creative excuse to bring out some reusable props and costumes, but stuff like The Big Goodbye falls a bit flat for me; it's basically just watching Picard playing a hilariously dangerous, glitchy videogame.

 

[cooleddie74]

We called them continuity errors back then.

Assuming some of us even noticed them.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Assuming some of us even noticed them.

Have you met us?

 

[Yistaan]

As a kid I hated holodeck episodes because... we're in space! We're in a pulpy adventure setting where anything can happen! The supposed benefit of the holodeck is that you can "go anywhere", but you can already go anywhere in Star Trek just by beaming down to a planet, where you could have a far more interesting adventure than in Dixon Hill!

I don't mind stuff like The Killing Game where the plot is largely external and the holodeck is being used as a creative excuse to bring out some reusable props and costumes, but stuff like The Big Goodbye falls a bit flat for me; it's basically just watching Picard playing a hilariously dangerous, glitchy videogame.

I mean holodeck relaxation makes sense in the context of the universe though. To take your narrative, ancient times people would wonder why modern people play video games when they can theoretically fly almost anywhere in the world (which people in ancient times can't do)

 

[Starflight]

It makes sense in the setting, but it doesn't necessarily make for good viewing; I wouldn't want a TV series - set in the present day real world - about a super-spy who goes on globetrotting missions to routinely put out episodes where we just watch them play videogames!

 

[Uhura's Song]

I thought the explanation on the holodeck was good. It malfunctioned so they did not have them on ships.

 

[fireproof78]

Did people argue as back in the 60s about canon as they do now? I don't remember this picking up until a few years into TNG. YMMV.

I just recall my tiny circle of Trek friends who didn't care for TOS compared to TNG and how they didn't work together.

 

[DaveyNY]

Did people argue as back in the 60s about canon as they do now? I don't remember this picking up until a few years into TNG. YMMV.

We obviously didn't have the Internet, but I remember letter writing type discussions in STARLOG magazine and I know I spent hours at many early conventions hashing out the little details in group meetings.
(STARLOG was our 'Internet' from 1976 till about 1998, at least for me)

The first convention I went to after TMP came out, had some raucous conversations about the new Enterprise and the Klingon changes.

 

[DaveyNY]

I just recall my tiny circle of Trek friends who didn't care for TOS compared to TNG and how they didn't work together.

And that was purposely done at the time by Roddenberry himself.
Even though several episodes came right from TOS scripts that he wanted to rehash.

 

[cooleddie74]

Have you met us?

I'm ten of our sorry carcasses rolled into one.