Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

[Sci]

Oh, get over yourself

Nope. I'll take a story about how being trapped in grief can devastate everyone any day of the week over some soulless paint-by-numbers episode about finding the right shield frequency to counteract a radiation field or whatever other tech-the-tech nonsense so much of Star Trek devolved into in the Berman era.

 

[Macintosh]

Nope. I'll take a story about how being trapped in grief can devastate everyone any day of the week over some soulless paint-by-numbers episode about finding the right shield frequency to counteract a radiation field or whatever other tech-the-tech nonsense so much of Star Trek devolved into in the Berman era.

OK, thanks for sharing, I don't care.

 

[Sci]

OK, thanks for sharing, I don't care.

You obviously do care, or else you wouldn't have posted "Oh, get over yourself."

 

[fireproof78]

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[Sci]

Generalized reminder that the strengths of Strange New Worlds build upon the strengths of Discovery, particularly the way SNW prioritizes humanized, heartfelt storytelling over mindless action or heartless technobabble.

 

[fireproof78]

Stories are meant to be evocative, to stir something in the members of the audience. Otherwise, why the hell does Trek endure for years if we just want the technical stuff?

Wouldn't that be easier as book? Or a documentary?

 

[Macintosh]

Generalized reminder that the strengths of Strange New Worlds build upon the strengths of Discovery, particularly the way SNW prioritizes humanized, heartfelt storytelling over mindless action or heartless technobabble.

Generalised reminder that your interpretation isn't the only correct one.

 

[fireproof78]

Generalized reminder that empathy is valuable.

 

[Macintosh]

Generalised reminder that passive aggression is just super.

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

Oh, get over yourself

OK, you and Sci knock it off.

 

[Noname Given]

Nah. It was caused by an alien who through exposure to an exotic element caused a psychic wave to tear through subspace rendering Dilithium inert. You know, Star Trek.

On a ship that functioned for 105 years, in one of the most hostile environments imaginable; yet fell apart exactly at the time our 'heroes' appear on the scene... (Not to mention the 'child' is really spry for being 105.)
^^^
Oh, and the whole 'reason for the Burn' was just a telegraphed trope. Starfleet of the 31st-32nd century can't find a ship sending a signal for 105 years? And a psychic child crying over the loss of his mother brought down Galactic society because he projected his grief from the surface of a Dilithium planet?

And Starfleet needs Dilithium badly (as does everyone else in the Galaxy; even though from TOS through the TNG era, there were plenty of races that achieved FTL/Warp technology via other methods - yet by the 32nd century, Dilithium is it?

So yeah, sorry but Discovery S3 was a contrived, tropish,, telegraphed mess.

Now Discovery S4 had some real interesting concepts, and one of the best "First Contact" scenarios in Star Trek. I wish they had devoted one more episode to that First Contact. Because honestly, the pacing was poor. It seemed they had the start and end locked and then struggled to fill in the story. But I will say u Discovery S4 was decent.

S3 (IMO), nope. (YMMV)

 

[Nerys Myk]

On a ship that functioned for 105 years, in one of the most hostile environments imaginable; yet fell apart exactly at the time our 'heroes' appear on the scene... (Not to mention the 'child' is really spry for being 105.)
^^^
Oh, and the whole 'reason for the Burn' was just a telegraphed trope. Starfleet of the 31st-32nd century can't find a ship sending a signal for 105 years? And a psychic child crying over the loss of his mother brought down Galactic society because he projected his grief from the surface of a Dilithium planet?

And Starfleet needs Dilithium badly (as does everyone else in the Galaxy; even though from TOS through the TNG era, there were plenty of races that achieved FTL/Warp technology via other methods - yet by the 32nd century, Dilithium is it?

So yeah, sorry but Discovery S3 was a contrived, tropish,, telegraphed mess.

Now Discovery S4 had some real interesting concepts, and one of the best "First Contact" scenarios in Star Trek. I wish they had devoted one more episode to that First Contact. Because honestly, the pacing was poor. It seemed they had the start and end locked and then struggled to fill in the story. But I will say u Discovery S4 was decent.

S3 (IMO), nope. (YMMV)

Not really seeing a problem.

 

[Mudd]

On a ship that functioned for 105 years, in one of the most hostile environments imaginable; yet fell apart exactly at the time our 'heroes' appear on the scene... (Not to mention the 'child' is really spry for being 105.)
^^^
Oh, and the whole 'reason for the Burn' was just a telegraphed trope. Starfleet of the 31st-32nd century can't find a ship sending a signal for 105 years? And a psychic child crying over the loss of his mother brought down Galactic society because he projected his grief from the surface of a Dilithium planet?

And Starfleet needs Dilithium badly (as does everyone else in the Galaxy; even though from TOS through the TNG era, there were plenty of races that achieved FTL/Warp technology via other methods - yet by the 32nd century, Dilithium is it?

So yeah, sorry but Discovery S3 was a contrived, tropish,, telegraphed mess.

Now Discovery S4 had some real interesting concepts, and one of the best "First Contact" scenarios in Star Trek. I wish they had devoted one more episode to that First Contact. Because honestly, the pacing was poor. It seemed they had the start and end locked and then struggled to fill in the story. But I will say u Discovery S4 was decent.

S3 (IMO), nope. (YMMV)

Yep.

 

[fireproof78]

And a psychic child crying over the loss of his mother brought down Galactic society because he projected his grief from the surface of a Dilithium planet?

I do not understand the humor in the expression of grief.

 

[Nerys Myk]

On a ship that functioned for 105 years, in one of the most hostile environments imaginable; yet fell apart exactly at the time our 'heroes' appear on the scene... (Not to mention the 'child' is really spry for being 105.)

Hahahahaahaha. Do you even Star Trek, bro?

 

[cooleddie74]

The cause of the Burn isn't even the dumbest plot twist we've seen from streaming Trek NOR EVEN IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

 

[Dukhat]

Hahahahaahaha. Do you even Star Trek, bro?

Sorry, no. Saying ‘It’s Star Trek’ isn’t an excuse for shitty writing and contrived plots. Yeah, we get that this kind of thing has happened before in Trek’s past. But by that logic, saying that it’s ok for modern Trek to be misogynistic because ‘it’s Star Trek” (specifically TOS), doesn’t quite fly.

 

[fireproof78]

Hahahahaahaha. Do you even Star Trek, bro?

When new Trek does it it's bad.

See, it's based on the idea that newer writers are somehow watching older Trek and going, "Ok, I don't want to do that, " as if the writing lessons of the past will be conveyed to the future.

The cause of the Burn is in line with TOS, TNG, and VOY of gigantic consequences from seemingly personal matters.

 

[Mudd]

Sorry, no. Saying ‘It’s Star Trek’ isn’t an excuse for shitty writing and contrived plots.

It's a way of saying "I can't defend this and I don't wanna hear about it."

 

[Tuskin38]

there were plenty of races that achieved FTL/Warp technology via other methods

Some of which are brought up early in the season.