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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"

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DS9 pointed out the difference instead of just ignoring it and making it seem as there was no difference at all. That they said there was a difference meant somewhere the difference had to be explained.

I'm not sure it had to be explained. Ron Moore's stated reason for making a joke out of it in "...Tribble-ations" was that, in his opinion, there was no explanation that wouldn't be "beyond preposterous"*. I guess they thought the audience would understand and appreciate a wink that wobbled the fourth wall, but that -

Sigh, DS9 could have solved the Klingons by just not mentioning it. Have Worf made up to look like a TOS Klingon when he was on Kay, on one says anything, when he's on Defiant he looks like a MT Klingon. Don't say anything. Let the audience grasp the Klingons always looked like this just the limits of 1960s TV prevented it.

But, no, they had to say something...

- would have demolished it outright and been out of tone for DS9 at the time. I can imagine Berman vetoing that idea, if it was ever considered, as he did with Dennis McCarthy's idea to do the music TOS-style, using Jerry Fielding's themes verbatim. It's the kind of thing LD or SNW probably would get away with these days.

*I wonder what he made of ENT's Klingon Augment arc. IMHO, they did a great job.
 
I don’t really worry about plot-armor, here are the number of “main” characters killed in the first 57 years.
  • Tasha Yar
  • Jadzia Dax
  • Doctor Culber (he got better)
Plus, Rand and Kes were written off, but reappeared later.

So pretty much everyone has plot-armor.

Per LDS bridge crew die and come back anyway. With no explanation.
 
TOS is certainly not being forgotten. Rather it is being elevated and made more relevant than it has been in years, and I for one am delighted.

Yep...this idea that TOS is being forgotten is hyperbole for sure. On one hand I can kind of understand the frustration a little bit, especially if the changes seem arbitrary, but in this particular case SNW comes so long after TOS that there are bound to be a lot of changes.
 
Yep...this idea that TOS is being forgotten is hyperbole for sure. On one hand I can kind of understand the frustration a little bit, especially if the changes seem arbitrary, but in this particular case SNW comes so long after TOS that there are bound to be a lot of changes.
Indeed. It's why design changes for ships, technology, aliens, doesn't bother me at all. We are 60 years removed from the original series, and as much as I love it, especially as the first Trek I was exposed to, updating designs is perfectly reasonable, and requires no in-universe explanation.
 
Indeed. It's why design changes for ships, technology, aliens, doesn't bother me at all. We are 60 years removed from the original series, and as much as I love it, especially as the first Trek I was exposed to, updating designs is perfectly reasonable, and requires no in-universe explanation.

And, FWIW, the SNW 1701 looks....dope as hell? The bridge, engineering, sickbay, even the corridors look like a very interesting and well-designed spaceship.
 
And, FWIW, the SNW 1701 looks....dope as hell? The bridge, engineering, sickbay, even the corridors look like a very interesting and well-designed spaceship.
Exactly. The original 1701 was treated more like a submarine, so of course everyone's quarters were tiny, there were no open spaces with big windows, and such. One of my favorite episodes, "Balance of Terror" is based on submarine warfare. You can see the aesthetic throughout the ship.
 
The exposed pipes and hardware junctions were also meant to evoke that submarine feel.

The SNW Enterprise feels like a good balance between mechanical rawness in many ways (some exposed hardware, physical controls, etc) and the exceptionally fantastical JJVerse Enterprise
 
10.

As quickly as I turned off the previous episode, was how riveting this one was. Loved it.

Bonus points for Paris snd Torres vibes in the spacesuits.
 
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The exposed pipes and hardware junctions were also meant to evoke that submarine feel.

The SNW Enterprise feels like a good balance between mechanical rawness in many ways (some exposed hardware, physical controls, etc) and the exceptionally fantastical JJVerse Enterprise
Yep. You know, I like the JJPrise, I think it looks very good, except I do want to push the neck forward just a bit, and kind of widen the distance between the nacelles, but everything else looks great, IMO.
 
Did anyone get that Azati Prime/Enterprise NX-01 getting wrecked by Xindi feeling near the end of the episode when the Gorn are just bombarding the Enterprise with their weapon fire?
 
Ah, yes. The Galloway Effect. The most curious conundrum in science fiction.
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Just finished it. It was okay. I was expecting a lot more. It felt like they were channelling Jurassic Park rather than Alien this time.
Still not a fan on these new Gorn. I’m just not feeling them
 
In the wider entertainment and genre world there are some instances where it would have been much better to ignore fan nonsense and this was definitely one of them.
Yep. Sean Ferrick at Trek Culture gave a downvote during the episode review (it's on Youtube and worth watching, btw) for the scene where Spock drives the object into the Gorn's helmet, causing exposure to vacuum, because of the scene in ENT where it was stated that the Gorn can survive the vacuum of space. Nothing against Sean, he's terrific, it's just some fans will nitpick that, and I don't think it's pertinent enough to care about, quite honestly.
 
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