Blame ENT, they felt the need to break the 4th wall and explain.
In the wider entertainment and genre world there are some instances where it would have been much better to ignore fan nonsense and this was definitely one of them.
Blame ENT, they felt the need to break the 4th wall and explain.
DS9 pointed out the difference instead of just ignoring it and making it seem as there was no difference at all. That they said there was a difference meant somewhere the difference had to be explained.
Sigh, DS9 could have solved the Klingons by just not mentioning it. Have Worf made up to look like a TOS Klingon when he was on Kay, on one says anything, when he's on Defiant he looks like a MT Klingon. Don't say anything. Let the audience grasp the Klingons always looked like this just the limits of 1960s TV prevented it.
But, no, they had to say something...
I don’t really worry about plot-armor, here are the number of “main” characters killed in the first 57 years.
Plus, Rand and Kes were written off, but reappeared later.
- Tasha Yar
- Jadzia Dax
- Doctor Culber (he got better)
So pretty much everyone has plot-armor.
Shhhh you are not meant to talk about it!Per LDS bridge crew die and come back anyway. With no explanation.
TOS is certainly not being forgotten. Rather it is being elevated and made more relevant than it has been in years, and I for one am delighted.
Indeed. It's why design changes for ships, technology, aliens, doesn't bother me at all. We are 60 years removed from the original series, and as much as I love it, especially as the first Trek I was exposed to, updating designs is perfectly reasonable, and requires no in-universe explanation.Yep...this idea that TOS is being forgotten is hyperbole for sure. On one hand I can kind of understand the frustration a little bit, especially if the changes seem arbitrary, but in this particular case SNW comes so long after TOS that there are bound to be a lot of changes.
Indeed. It's why design changes for ships, technology, aliens, doesn't bother me at all. We are 60 years removed from the original series, and as much as I love it, especially as the first Trek I was exposed to, updating designs is perfectly reasonable, and requires no in-universe explanation.
Exactly. The original 1701 was treated more like a submarine, so of course everyone's quarters were tiny, there were no open spaces with big windows, and such. One of my favorite episodes, "Balance of Terror" is based on submarine warfare. You can see the aesthetic throughout the ship.And, FWIW, the SNW 1701 looks....dope as hell? The bridge, engineering, sickbay, even the corridors look like a very interesting and well-designed spaceship.
Yep. You know, I like the JJPrise, I think it looks very good, except I do want to push the neck forward just a bit, and kind of widen the distance between the nacelles, but everything else looks great, IMO.The exposed pipes and hardware junctions were also meant to evoke that submarine feel.
The SNW Enterprise feels like a good balance between mechanical rawness in many ways (some exposed hardware, physical controls, etc) and the exceptionally fantastical JJVerse Enterprise
We call it the Leslie effect.Per LDS bridge crew die and come back anyway. With no explanation.
Many of us did not.I mean, fandom swallowed that nonsense whole to ease their discomfort with the Klingons.![]()
Until you get outside.And, FWIW, the SNW 1701 looks....dope as hell? The bridge, engineering, sickbay, even the corridors look like a very interesting and well-designed spaceship.
Until you get outside.
Ah, yes. The Galloway Effect. The most curious conundrum in science fiction.
Yep. Sean Ferrick at Trek Culture gave a downvote during the episode review (it's on Youtube and worth watching, btw) for the scene where Spock drives the object into the Gorn's helmet, causing exposure to vacuum, because of the scene in ENT where it was stated that the Gorn can survive the vacuum of space. Nothing against Sean, he's terrific, it's just some fans will nitpick that, and I don't think it's pertinent enough to care about, quite honestly.In the wider entertainment and genre world there are some instances where it would have been much better to ignore fan nonsense and this was definitely one of them.
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