The Bugs didn't have space travel.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x10 - "Hegemony"
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The Bugs didn't have space travel.
It is a quote from the book, Starship Troopers.
I missed the reference; thank you.
Your welcome. In the book Rico notes the intelligence of the Arachnids of
Klendathu, and that they must be intelligent in some way as dumb species don't build spaceships.
Terrifically engaging hour, undercut by how unappealing I find this version of the Gorn. I was really hoping they would drop the angle that the newborn (?) Gorn can impregnate (??) people with eggs that hatch in like two days. It's all too goofy, B-movie monster for me.
The adult Gorn looked fucking rad, though. More of those, less of the hissing, fertile Xenomorph babies please.
The adult Gorn looked fucking rad, though. More of those, less of the hissing, fertile Xenomorph babies please.
I thought it was hilarious they felt the need to explain why the colony looked like a generic set on the Paramount backlot instead of just rolling with it.
Episode was great but I HATE they did the cliffhanger. But to be fair I doubt they thought they would have to strike for a righteous cause and be facing a long delay. Maybe they would have done it different if they did. Gonna be a long 2 years but as I said before…given the circumstances I’ll live.
And as far as cliffhangers go…let’s not get crazy here. This doesn’t touch BoBW pt1…it’s not even in the neighborhood. It’s more on par with Scorpion pt1, Year of Hell pt1 (although that wasn’t a season finale) or maybe Redemption pt1. Part of the issue here is that so many characters have unbreakable plot armor. We know Sam and M’Benga cant die. And Pike isn’t gonna get booted out of the fleet if he defies orders to mount (see what I did there) a rescue. I do worry about Ortegas though. I don’t think they kill off La’an quite yet.
I bet Batel lives but loses the arm and goes thru a Nog like experience.
Scotty 3.0 was good. I don’t mind small universe-ing him and Pelia.
did I miss Spock explain why he had to apologize to Chapel because…he doesn’t have anything to apologize for. She’s the one that did him dirty.
not gonna get into the weeds on Gorn appearance but the adult did look close to the ENT version. I did like the bit with it on the bridge.
Batel has/had a Yeoman. I guess Pike didn’t want one after Colt.
I’ll go 8/10 for the finale. And I’ll have to sleep on it but I’m leaning on 8/10 being my score for the season as a whole.
I don’t ever recall anything about them being in S2 other than the actor playing Angel saying they would be up for reprising the role. Sybok always came off as just a fun easter egg and not a future plot point beyond “The Final Frontier.”
Episode was great but I HATE they did the cliffhanger. But to be fair I doubt they thought they would have to strike for a righteous cause and be facing a long delay. Maybe they would have done it different if they did. Gonna be a long 2 years but as I said before…given the circumstances I’ll live.
And as far as cliffhangers go…let’s not get crazy here. This doesn’t touch BoBW pt1…it’s not even in the neighborhood. It’s more on par with Scorpion pt1, Year of Hell pt1 (although that wasn’t a season finale) or maybe Redemption pt1. Part of the issue here is that so many characters have unbreakable plot armor. We know Sam and M’Benga cant die. And Pike isn’t gonna get booted out of the fleet if he defies orders to mount (see what I did there) a rescue. I do worry about Ortegas though. I don’t think they kill off La’an quite yet.
I bet Batel lives but loses the arm and goes thru a Nog like experience.
Scotty 3.0 was good. I don’t mind small universe-ing him and Pelia.
did I miss Spock explain why he had to apologize to Chapel because…he doesn’t have anything to apologize for. She’s the one that did him dirty.
not gonna get into the weeds on Gorn appearance but the adult did look close to the ENT version. I did like the bit with it on the bridge.
Batel has/had a Yeoman. I guess Pike didn’t want one after Colt.
I’ll go 8/10 for the finale. And I’ll have to sleep on it but I’m leaning on 8/10 being my score for the season as a whole.
I don’t ever recall anything about them being in S2 other than the actor playing Angel saying they would be up for reprising the role. Sybok always came off as just a fun easter egg and not a future plot point beyond “The Final Frontier.”
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QFT.
I personally think Chapel somehow figures out how to beam the baby gorn out of her body and Pike will use them in a trade to get his crew and the civilians back from the head gorn.
Baby Gorn are left to fend for themselves, on remote worlds and in hostile conditions, sometimes cannibalizing each other, in order to fight to the death among themselves so an alpha hatchling to emerge. There won't be any negotiating for Gorn young on the part of the Gorn, at least not the way this show has been written so far.
Well, the book is wildly different from the movie (and the Bugs therein), which was what I was comparing the SNW Gorn to.
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Well, this was no Best of Both Worlds or Cold Front first part cliffhanger classic, but I guess it'll do. The creators have a lot to do to reconcile brainless lizard slaughter and cannibalism with super intelligent beings capable of space flight, and post-WGA strike, I hope they can pull it off... The fully grown Gorn versus Spock and Chapel scene was pretty intense, and at least you could see the lizard quizzically looking at tech on board the destroyed Cayuga. I liked that they aren't using Sam Kirk as the butt of a joke, but allowing him some redemption, and the new Scottie was well cast... They name-dropped Korby again but nary a glimpse of him. That's the problem with cliffhangers, you can't really judge them completely until the resolution. To be fair, Cold Front part two was a deflated balloon, and BOBW was a resounding success. We'll see if a rather pedestrian first part will conclude in a classic or not. I'm not convinced it will, because the Gorn need so much fleshing out to achieve Borg or Klingon status, but we'll see...
There were people saying during the early seasons of TNG that they were tired of the Klingon episodes and hoped Star Trek would forget about them.
I don't understand how anyone can complain about characters we know will serve on Enterprise showing up on this show. Do you all assume that when Kirk takes over, there's a great reset to his crew? Scotty was there at the beginning of TOS. Why would you expect he doesn't show up before "Where No Man Has Gone Before"?
Porthos did not build any Star Ships, yet he probably relieved himself on dozens if not hundreds of planets.
I had to look it up, it's been a very long time, but the bugs would lay a clutch of eggs on an asteroid and the propel that asteroid at a target... Huh?
The asteroids are shot away using bug plasma. I have an image in my head of a bad 90s cgi bug with a ass cannon shooting asteroids away, but I'm not sure if that is Star Ship troopers or something else.
Reddit mentions the book. It was all a false flag. The human government was creating the bug threat as a distraction, infecting planets, so it could take care of business.
I saw a suggestion that the brain bugs might be able to make the human star ships just pick up a few thousand bugs now and then, and take them here or there.
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Exactly. We're going to see more of these people, or at least see them more often as we approach the time where Pike gets into the beep-beep chair. This is the story of Christopher Pike, his crew, and the adventures of the Enterprise before Kirk, but Kirk is going to become captain, it is no more than a handful of years away at this point. This should be expected. It was never not coming.
This was ok. Pike/Patel stuff was excellent, and Scotty is breath of amazing fresh air. It does not matter what universe or timeline, or apparently even what actor, but somehow Scotty is always the most fun character on screen.
I have to knock off at least 2 grades for the cliffhanger though. I thought we were past these tired, unengaging network broadcast style concepts now that we've moved into the streaming age. Really disappointed to see such a pointless trope make it's ill fated return. And to top it off, it's not even a good cliffhanger, just a dull one that makes Pike look bad.
Oh well, they can't all be home runs. Overall the season was excellent, with the highest of highs and only kind of the saddest middling of lows. I look forward to seeing more if the show doesn't get strike cancelled, and in 2-3 years time.
I have to knock off at least 2 grades for the cliffhanger though. I thought we were past these tired, unengaging network broadcast style concepts now that we've moved into the streaming age. Really disappointed to see such a pointless trope make it's ill fated return. And to top it off, it's not even a good cliffhanger, just a dull one that makes Pike look bad.
Oh well, they can't all be home runs. Overall the season was excellent, with the highest of highs and only kind of the saddest middling of lows. I look forward to seeing more if the show doesn't get strike cancelled, and in 2-3 years time.
I kept thinking Christine is going to be murdered and replaced by a robot, or Christine get's murdered, but she's already a robot.
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It depends. Assuming they are embracing the post-scarcity lifestyle with infinite energy (no need for nuclear/fossil fuel power plants) and 23rd century tech (infinite free food, robotic/semi-automated construction and manufacturing, free instantaneous transport, etc.), I wouldn't design something that has streets and require cars.
Certainly I would have mid-rises rather than single/dual story buildings, so the living area is more dense and people wouldn't need to take a car to drive to the diner or get a hair cut. If you wanted to be creative and create nice public spaces, you could have a canal or lots of trees/green spaces in between your buildings rather than roads.
Admittedly I don't really have the imagination to imagine what a future society would look like if you had no need for industry or giant commercial spaces like 'malls' and instant travel... but Star Trek hasn't really depicted Federation towns as actual places. They're either modern cities dressed up to with no roads and higher density, or people live on vineyards and farms.
But that goes out the window if the whole point is to recreate an American small town/suburb and maintain those "vibes", whatever that means to these people. Maybe they choose to recreate an American HOA gated community system where every single person has their perfect McMansion home and manicured lawn that looks exactly the same. Maybe people are forced to use cars because they don't want shuttlecraft ruining their views or hate the noise that transporters make whenever people beam in and out.
What is the lifestyle though? One where you live far away from the commercial center of a town and need to commute by vehicle to get there? I mean, that's fine, but I have to assume there's something ideological in choosing a 20th century design.
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Hilariously enough, from a little Googling to see if someone has thought of urban planning in Star Trek, in the Memory Beta canon, Pike's mother is an urban planner and designed a city for Antarctica - https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki/Willa_McKinnies
So at least someone thought this would be a profession 200 years from now.
But also, someone put a giant train tube right in the middle of the Eiffel Tower so I have no idea what people would be thinking in that time period. lol
Same. I did not feel "Woah, cool!" at the end, I felt "Sons of bitches."
My first mental comparison was ENT's Azati Prime.
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