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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x03 - "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow"

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L'aan makes an offhand remark as Kirk moves to steal a car. "This is private property." Now, the implication is that Kirk does not understand this coming from a more advanced society where perhaps an AI computer controls all transportation? Picard tells us "there is no money" so he is growing grapes and making wine at the government's behest and then it is distributed probably via a social credit system. So is Sisko's dad. No wonder there is no crime. No one would dare would they? One false move, and the nanny state cuts your access to your social credits which they control. The AI no doubt reads all communications like Google's AI "reads" all your emails. This is fascism with a velvet glove. Freedom is an illusion they create as they control every aspect of your life. It's all "for the common good." I would leave Earth immediately if I were trapped there but perhaps there is no ship available for the non elites. Very few humans seem to have escaped this. Even colonies work on this system.
 
I just wanted to point out that when La’an and Kirk realize that Toronto being destroyed is the point of deviation between their timelines, Kirk says that happened several days after the bridge explosion. So presumably everything afterwards takes place over the space of a couple of days, they didn’t cram everything into just one day.
 
Any direct or indirect references to PICARD season 2 in the episode (Adam Soong, the Shenzhen Convention banning human genetic engineering, or even human spaceflight within the solar system)?

(Disclaimer: for those that might say I should just watch the episode, I won't be in a country where SNW is legally available until September...)
 
La'an of Green Gables...

The latest alternative timeline is asking me to swallow a prop hot dog coated in wax. The only way it makes sense for me is that the survivors of the future catastrophe were privileged enough to amass the resources to build starships and appropriate identities based on an old television show they knew of called Star Trek. And they were helped by rogue temporal agents who were running live simulations for their own ends.

And that alt-badge...hideous! It's tachy. Pun intended.
 
Any direct or indirect references to PICARD season 2 in the episode (Adam Soong, the Shenzhen Convention banning human genetic engineering, or even human spaceflight within the solar system)?

(Disclaimer: for those that might say I should just watch the episode, I won't be in a country where SNW is legally available until September...)
"legally" is the key word here
 
Voodoowoman2 said:
"Picard tells us "there is no money" so he is growing grapes and making wine at the government's behest and then it is distributed probably via a social credit system. So is Sisko's dad. No wonder there is no crime. No one would dare would they? One false move, and the nanny state cuts your access to your social credits which they control. The AI no doubt reads all communications like Google's AI "reads" all your emails. This is fascism with a velvet glove. Freedom is an illusion they create as they control every aspect of your life. It's all "for the common good." I would leave Earth immediately if I were trapped there but perhaps there is no ship available for the non elites. Very few humans seem to have escaped this. Even colonies work on this system.

Nowhere in Trek (that I have seen or read) does anyone mention or allude to a social credit system like you describe here. Do you have a source, or is this your own invention in order to label the 23rd Century Earth as fascist?
 
It's fucking Vancouver man. People gotta argue even on things that don't make sense to argue about. It's a disease.
Vancouver? Looks at Map of Canada. :shrug: The show is filmed in Toronto, on the the other sider of the continent. Trek has filmed in LA for years. It's time travel episodes have used real world locations there and in the San Francisco Bay Area to represent contemporary Earth. So why is Vancouver Toronto a problem? Maybe next time don't view the episode through rage colored glassed?
I know Trek fans love to be literal, but a strange new world doesn't have to be another planet. For La'Aan and Kirk they were in a strange new world.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step to solving it. I wish you luck.
 
Nope. Because Voyager references the events of First Contact

Only Seven did reference those events, and she may be aware of alternate realities from her time in the Borg Collective.

and the borg signal sent out from ENT: Regeneration is why there are borg in the Beta Quadrant in TNG/Pre-TNG

They did send out the the signal, but the rest ist pure speculation.

Also going with your theory, that would mean the Enterprise-E returned to an alternate timeline.

Possibly ... there is no proof one way or the other. We have just not seen enough of the post First Contact timeline. But I guess they went back to their original timeline, due to whatever temporal laws that were made up. If they had returned to the alternate timeline's future, it would not line up with Voyager and DS9. But who knows!
 
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ROMULAN SUBCOMMANDER: We may be detected by their tracking technology. I recommend use of the new cloaking device.
ROMULAN COMMANDER: A wise precaution. We can spare the energy expenditure. Make it so.


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ROMULAN SUBCOMMANDER: Now we are one of their famous "weather balloons". Our mission will be gloriously successful! Long live the Romulan Star Empire!
 
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