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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x03 - "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow"

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Another time travel episode where only one character knows what happend and again another alternate kirk. No thanks. 5 out of 10.
 
but with Guinan her memories weren’t perfect. She only knew Tasha had died before she joined the ship and that everything else seemed wrong. But she didn’t know wrong how.
 
This assumes that photonic torpedoes are exactly the same thing as photon torpedoes.
This like assuming breech loading rifles and M-16 rifles are the same because of the word "rifle".
That's basically what ENT did, though. The same things that worked in the same way, just named slightly differently.

"Phase pistols" instead of phasers.
"Polarized hull plating" instead of shields.
"Photonic torpedoes" instead of photon torpedoes.
 
That's basically what ENT did, though. The same things that worked in the same way, just named slightly differently.

"Phase pistols" instead of phasers.
"Polarized hull plating" instead of shields.
"Photonic torpedoes" instead of photon torpedoes.
Similar but not the same. Implied to be precursors. Though polarized hull plating seems different than full on shields.
 
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What if future La'an blabs about her mission to someone, so the DTI sends the Gorn to her family to wipe out everyone but her to protect the timeline and send her a clear message about the consequences of blabbing? And then they wipe her mind.
 
Hell yes. I find the lack of discipline and self entitlement amongst the modern characters to be soooo frustrating. People are literally dying right now but let's take some time to kiss and talk about our relationship before we go on this dangerous mission.

Citation needed.

Does that imply that there was actually an armed conflict between Earth and Vulcan? It's still one of the most "What the hell are you talking about?!?" lines in Star Trek. Crazier than anything Janice Lester even thought about.

I think at that point in TOS's production, the intended backstory was that Earth had indeed conquered Vulcan -- or, rather, Vulcanis -- at some point. Obviously that backstory changed and the idea was never referenced again -- including, IIRC, being actively contradicted in, I think "The Immunity Syndrome?" There's a line somewhere where Spock mentions the idea that Vulcan has never been conquered in living memory.

That said, Spock getting called for playing his lute too loud was delicious and I have to say I like anytime they are able to underscore the "city in space" aspect of the Enterprise.

As a former R.A., it felt more like "college dorm" in space than "city in space" to me. ;)
 
That X-Files type guy who arrested Guinan and Picard in Picard Season 2 recounts a flashback where a Vulcan used a transporter near him when he was a kid, which was dated circa mid 20th century.
Well nothing in previous shows says the Vulcans didn't have transporters in the 20th century.
BTW we are now 3 episodes into our new season - and Pike is still missing in action.:lol:

Did it took Anson Mount this long to film his Marvel cameo?
Anson had a kid and requested some time off. He has a big role in this week's episode based off the trailers.

Yep. Meaning in that changed history the Vulcans showed up on Earth more than once in the 1950s or 1960s or perhaps the Carbon Creek crash never even happened and that particular incident involving Agent Wells as a child was the Vulcan landing of that era.
According to Carbon Creek there was going be another Vulcan survey of the system in 20 years. Which could line up with Agent Wells age.

Also what the heck happened to kyle? Hes gone akesdy.
The actor got cast on another show. Which has already been cancelled, so maybe he'll be back in Season 3.
 
I love Time Travel episodes. This one, I liked. I’m not sure why, but it didn’t grab me like they usually do. Perhaps it was just bc there were only two main players and I’d like to see the other cast members? I’m unsure. But I did like it. A solid 8.
 
Throw off the shackles of the spoiler tags my Trekkies!



I was wondering the same thing.



Why "nope"? I don't really have a dog in this fight in that I'm not ready to cheer "See?!? I TOLD you it had to be another timeline!" or anything. "Alternate timeline" kind of bores me. It was brilliant in '09 because it served a definite purpose but I really don't need to see an alt alt alt timeline. (And "Multiverse" is wearing out it's welcome.)

But we just had a Romulan in the 21st century state that she and her ilk had been messing with Earth's past and acknowledge that the Eugenics Wars were "supposed to" take place in the 1990's and that they don't anymore. That's hard to get away from.

You know, again there was no reason to revisit the Eugenics Wars or Khan. But for whatever reason the writers thought "Hey, we just NEED a descendant of Khan on this ship to properly tell this story." But now not only do we know that the name Noonian Singh is enough to get you teased / bullied / whatever over 200 years later, but we also know that we're currently (right now!) in the lead up to WWIII because of January 6th, 2020 (among other altercations) leading to the Second American Civil War which leads... to.... the... Eugenics Wars?

Honest question: Is genetic manipulation still considered "eugenics"? Isn't eugenics more selective breeding Master Race stuff?

I don't know why this episode has stuck with me over the last couple of days as much as it has. La'an is not my favorite character (or hasn't been). I wasn't thrilled with Wesley's Kirk the last time out. But this was SNW firing on all cylinders. Christina Chong hit it out of the park. They managed to put Kirk a little bit on his back foot keeping La'an as the lead but still giving Kirk enough room to be awesome.

Kirk playing chess is currently the high point of the season for me.

I do wonder why it's a 23rd century Romulan ship doing the time traveling, but I like the fact that Kirk recognizes it but La'an doesn't AND they don't take the time to explain it.

I also loved that the turning point for Kirk helping restore the timeline is not the Fate of the Earth but just Sam.

Maybe I'm bringing all my TOS baggage to the show (which is what they want me to do) but did the music for La'an and Kirk get as close to "Goodnight Sweetheart" as they could without paying royalties? Or maybe just Fred Steiner's music?

I know Anson was busy being a new daddy and all, but we need some Pike in our Pike show!

Dammit. Now I have to wait NINE days between new episodes. Unless Amazon screws up again.
Wouldn’t she not recognize it bc she’s never seen a Romulan ship in her timeline? They hadn’t been seen in over a century until TOS “Balance of Terror”.
 
Bet he kinda regrets THAT career move. :lol:

Nah. If he got a bigger role on another show, it's the right move to take it. His role as Kyle on SNW was very small -- even if this other show got cancelled, being able to demonstrate your ability to handle a larger role to other casting directors means you're more likely to get cast in a big role in other shows. He made the right call.
 
Nitpick: I wish Alternate Timeline Kirk's ship didn't so closely resemble the Prime Timeline Enterprise, that the United Earth Fleet uniform didn't so closely resemble the Federation Starfleet uniform, and that the ship Alternate Timeline Kirk was born on hadn't been called "USS," because it all contributes to the impression that the Federation is just controlled by Earth instead of being a union of equals.
 
YOU DONT UNDERSTAND IF THE FAKE WAR DIDNT HAPPEN IN FAKE 1992 THEN MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE
Well, you see, Quark's Treasure crashed in Roswell in 1947, and that setup an alternate timeline where ENT, DISCO, PIC, LD, and PRO are both canon and non-canon...

TNG says the wrong number of Enterprises? Time Traveling Romulan.
Scotty thinks Kirk is still alive after seeing him die? Time Traveling Romulan.
Klingons look all wrong? Time Traveling Romulan.
I just go with my usually standby, Dr. Manhattan altering the timeline.
 
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