Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x03 - "Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow"

[AlanC9]

Last year episodes were showing up so late on Prime I finally went to Paramount and watched them there. This year it seems to be the reverse.

So it's incompetence, not corruption?
OK, I can live with that.

(You pretty much have to, after all.)

 

[fireproof78]

So it's incompetence, not corruption?
OK, I can live with that.

(You pretty much have to, after all.)

Or cancel.

 

[NCC-73515]

The episode is up on P+ now.

Rewatching Space Seed... in just the first few min, all 3 main characters make mistakes. Spock says it can't be an Earth ship (it is), Kirk says it's similar to DY-500 and Spock corrects him (much older, DY-100), then Bones says the lifesigns can't be human (they are), and Kirk misremembers the historian's name as McIvers and Spock corrects him again (McGivers). So it makes perfect sense that people get the 200 years wrong and have trouble remembering who Khan was And he initially says something more like Kann, short a, as in Cannes

 

[AlanC9]

Or cancel.

If incompetence was a cancelling offence, I'm not sure what would be left in my life.

 

[AlanC9]

"... in case this whole no-money socialist utopia thing turns out to be a fad."

OK., I laughed. But is that the first time they ever just went there and used the s-word?

 

[NCC-73515]

One of those things I never thought I'd see is a Rommie BoP surrounded by poutine

SNW: His legacy is torture, genocide...
TOS: There were no massacres under his rule

Good casting!

I'm gonna remove the spoiler tags from my previous posts now that it's out at the regular time

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Apparently people still wear 5 inch spike heels in the 29th century, so there's that.

WHY???

 

[Trekker4747]

Just started. La'an boxing in that crop-top, getting thrown on her back and rolling over? Okay. God-damn!

And the "no-money socialist utopia" thing made me laugh. But, again, we're shown hints that priceless works of art are being held by alien scavengers instead of being in museums where they should be.

 

[Awesome Possum]

WHY???

Because they look great.

 

[Trekker4747]

Okay. "You're not Kirk!!!"

 

[Anduinel]

Just started. La'an boxing in that crop-top, getting thrown on her back and rolling over? Okay. God-damn!

And the "no-money socialist utopia" thing made me laugh. But, again, we're shown hints that priceless works of art are being held by alien scavengers instead of being in museums where they should be.

Might be how they made it through the next World War or so. XD

 

[mattman8907]

This episode shows us the old "what would happen if you went back in time and killed hitler before he rose to power" scenario. Only they used Khan. Interesting. Also reminded me of The City on the Edge of Forever.

 

[James Cole]

Not watching this season of SNW, but as one of those annoying canon/continuity people gotta ask is it true this definitively sets up SNW as an alt timeline to TOS?

 

[Mudd]

Not watching this season of SNW, but as one of those annoying canon/continuity people gotta ask is it true this definitively sets up SNW as an alt timeline to TOS?

Nope, and who cares?

 

[NCC-73515]

They filmed the car chase with the screen wall

Found the locations on streetview:

Yonge-Dundas Square

Around the Harbourfront Center, Northern Spirit 1

Kajima

The real restaurant, apparently

Royal Ontario Museum

The Noonien-Singh institute where Khan and the others live is the Royal Conservatory Khanservatory of Music

Take a look here: https://goo.gl/maps/W93x9njzyW8SzPSr9

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Is there a good place to get Poutine Fries with Gravy in the US?

 

[NCC-73515]

Not watching this season of SNW, but as one of those annoying canon/continuity people gotta ask is it true this definitively sets up SNW as an alt timeline to TOS?

It's just based on this...

...and she says she had to wait 30 years. That suggests TOS/WOK Khan and EW happened in a previous timeline in 1992-96, but in this timeline where SNW takes place, it was prevented in the 90s and happened decades later. Like Judgment Day in the Terminator movies moving forward a few years but still happening whenever they thought they'd stopped it

 

[The Rock]

A fun episode but I am honestly tired of all the fucking time travel episodes. This is a well they've been going to once too often IMO. It seems like they do a time travel episode in any Trek series when they run out of ideas.

 

[bookworm8571]

Nope, and who cares?

I actually think it is an alternate timeline, How can it not be with all the tampering they’ve done in the various Star Trek series? Here and there little things are changed unnoticed and all those little things start to add up. Kirk is born on U.S.S. Iowa or in Riverside, Iowa. Kirk’s brother is called George by everyone in one timeline and Sam by everyone in another. In the original series, they had to look up the data on Khan Noonien-Singh and his place in the Eugenics Wars. In this one, Khan Noonien-Singh is as notorious a figure of evil as Adolf Hitler and his descendant is the security chief of the Enterprise, her history and that of her ancestor known well to Spock and Uhura because she was their crewmate and comrade. La’an is off the ship by that point and who knows what happens to her but there is no way they would forget everything they knew about Khan. It’s not the same as the original series but it’s better written and more entertaining this way. I’m happy to watch and be entertained.

 

[James Cole]

It's just based on this...

...and she says she had to wait 30 years. That suggests TOS/WOK Khan and EW happened in a previous timeline in 1992-96, but in this timeline where SNW takes place, it was prevented in the 90s and happened decades later. Like Judgment Day in the Terminator movies moving forward a few years but still happening whenever they thought they'd stopped it

Thank you for a good faith, constructive, non snarky reply. Wonder how Memory Alpha will treat it...