The "genetic engineering is bad kids!" thing came about on DS9 in order to give Bashir a tragic backstory. TNG said nothing negative about it, and portrayed several colonies which augmented themselves genetically.
Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"
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The "genetic engineering is bad kids!" thing came about on DS9 in order to give Bashir a tragic backstory. TNG said nothing negative about it, and portrayed several colonies which augmented themselves genetically.
I had the same thought (*Timothée Chalamet)
Ah, got my series mixed up. Thanks.
I also have to say it was clear this episode was done on a much lower budget than the first two.
No real guest cast other than the extras and the little bit with M'Benga's daughter at the end. Most of the action took place on the Enterprise, with the planet-side adventure mostly restricted to Pike and Kirk in a single room.
Not quite a "bottle episode" but close.
No real guest cast other than the extras and the little bit with M'Benga's daughter at the end. Most of the action took place on the Enterprise, with the planet-side adventure mostly restricted to Pike and Kirk in a single room.
Not quite a "bottle episode" but close.
Well shows that they are human. We all harbor secrets.
It would be a nice twist on some show to have a character reveal their deep dark secret was actually a lie they constructed in order to get attention from others.
I just view those colonies as steering around the law because the Federation Science Council granted them exemptions to conduct covert research. The ones like we see in "Up the Long Ladder(TNG)" and "The Masterpiece Society(TNG)" either pre-date the Federation or were founded just after its birth and had no contact with Earth and the Federation for the next two hundred or more years so I give them a pass with no arguments.
I love Uhura's sleeping pod. Looks so cozy!
1. Still enjoying the episodic format.
2. Very TOS vibe with the light virus, as others have said. I am fine with that. In fact, the more this show vibrates with the golden inner light of TOS, the better I'm going to like it.
3. Is the Enterprise a TARDIS? Given some of the sets, this ship definitely feels bigger on the inside than it does the outside. The engineering set is too frickin' big, IMO, too wide open, and too exposed. The bridge is also too large, but far better than some of the other stuff we've seen in JJ-Trek and Disco.
4. I have truly, truly grown to hate the transporter as a plot device. As in despise. If there is one thing I could retro-actively remove from all of Star Trek, it would be that gorram transporter! Followed closely by holodeck malfunctions.
5. Hemmer trying to beam up part of the planet's mantle was the coolest bit of crazy I've seen in an episode of Trek in over 20 years. That guy might be my favorite character on this show. Well, behind Pike, of course.
6. I may have to turn on subtitles in the future for M'Benga. I'm having trouble understanding him some of the time.
7. Had to laugh. Pike's quarters take up half a deck; poor Cadet Uhura has to sleep in a pod and share a room with at least two roomates. Rank hath its privileges, eh?
MOAR!!
2. Very TOS vibe with the light virus, as others have said. I am fine with that. In fact, the more this show vibrates with the golden inner light of TOS, the better I'm going to like it.
3. Is the Enterprise a TARDIS? Given some of the sets, this ship definitely feels bigger on the inside than it does the outside. The engineering set is too frickin' big, IMO, too wide open, and too exposed. The bridge is also too large, but far better than some of the other stuff we've seen in JJ-Trek and Disco.
4. I have truly, truly grown to hate the transporter as a plot device. As in despise. If there is one thing I could retro-actively remove from all of Star Trek, it would be that gorram transporter! Followed closely by holodeck malfunctions.
5. Hemmer trying to beam up part of the planet's mantle was the coolest bit of crazy I've seen in an episode of Trek in over 20 years. That guy might be my favorite character on this show. Well, behind Pike, of course.
6. I may have to turn on subtitles in the future for M'Benga. I'm having trouble understanding him some of the time.
7. Had to laugh. Pike's quarters take up half a deck; poor Cadet Uhura has to sleep in a pod and share a room with at least two roomates. Rank hath its privileges, eh?
MOAR!!
There’s hotels in Japan, and maybe other countries that have sleeping pods like that.
Some ferries and cruise ships too.
Good thing nobody put a phaser to their eyes and pressed the button...
Not to the level they give characters on these shows. They don't all need a twist.
It wasn't a complaint.
I think even if you mashed together every hallway and room from TOS, the first 3 movies, Disco and Strange New Worlds together you still wouldn't fit the supposed volume of a large starship even just from all the practical sets and CGI sets combined.
It seems to me that many of the colonies that have been presented in the TOS Era Trek probably predate the establishment of the Federation charter clause about Human Augmentation.
Most were shown to have been well established civilizations in their own right.
That has to take decades to set up.
Most were shown to have been well established civilizations in their own right.
That has to take decades to set up.
Bonus points for using the term "Augment" again in on-screen dialogue. STID never employed the term but the fandom has been pretty happy and willing to use it since ENT so it's good to see it return.
I think everything fits inside the ship as seen. Engineering is rather large but not larger than the hull. Same for the bridge.
Don't want to get a toe caught in that sliding darkness shade though, it slammed shut!
Ouchie!
Timothee: Thanks for putting a good word for me Babs, I always loved Star Trek!
Babs: No problem, always happy to help out a Dune costar!
