Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Strange New Worlds' started by Commander Richard, May 17, 2022.

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  1. IMC Headquarters

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    NUMBER ONE: First Officer's Log. Supplemental. We have arrived at the biggest dumpster fire in the quadrant. Starfleet is calling it "The Burn." From our current position, it looks like it can never be extinguished. It probably began with a discarded cigarette.

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    PIKE: It's tires. All the tires from every car ever made brought to this planet for final disposal. The Illyrians were so desperate to join the Federation they offered to take all Earth's old waste and recycle it. Instead, it became the biggest tire pile fire ever recorded. Goodyear, Firestone, Michelin...the final resting ground of all the restless souls of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries. And it poisoned the atmosphere and killed them all...the poor devils...

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    ENSIGN AT WINDOW: Major! Behold the Prophets of Bajor! They have returned to save us from the Cardassian filth!

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    ENSIGN: You're not the Prophets of Bajor! You're Jack Dawson!

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    HEMMER: I'm here to explain to you how we make Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. First, we pour solid milk chocolate into the moulds you see here. And then we beam the peanut butter inside them. Free samples coming right up!
     
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  2. Aeolusdallas

    Aeolusdallas Captain Captain

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    They mean that germ line engineering is illegal. Not temp medical stuff
     
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  3. valkyrie013

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    When La'an popped up.. I thought .. Oh her blood cured it.. Nope..
     
  4. KamenRiderBlade

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    The outright ban against Genetic Engineering because of the actions of Khan Noonien Singh is a "Over Reaction", especially in light of how other species have used Genetic Engineering for the positive.

    It's outright "Bigotry" as stated by the show. We've seen good Augments / Genetically Enhanced people. To categorically lump everybody in there with a "Full Ban" is Bigoted, stupid, and wasteful.

    Look at all the Good that Dr. Bashir has done because he's enhanced.

    Look at Phlox, Una Chin-Riley, La'an.

    Countless species who would love to be enhanced.

    If you analyze the Genetic Modifications, enhancing "Aggression" was a stupid idea and humanity doesn't need more of that genetic trait. We have plenty of "Aggression" as is naturally.

    The engineers went too far in tweaking things and turned up the dial on certain genes that should've been left alone.

    The amount of good that Genetic Engineering can do and the lives it can save if used properly is mind boggling.
     
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  5. fireproof78

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    It's rarely used properly...:shifty:
     
  6. KamenRiderBlade

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    The Denobulans would disagree.

    And the Illyrians in this episode suffered and died out because they tried to de-engineer themselves to be normal.

    There's nothing wrong with a bit of genetic enhancement in the right areas.

    Imagine if you could agument yourself to be better, imagine what it could do for your quality of life.
     
  7. Belz...

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    It's a weird thing. It stopped working once I put a small amount of thought into it, so to me it seems like it works instinctively... and that's the weird thing, since numbers are definitely not instinctual.

    I'm rambling at this point.
     
  8. cooleddie74

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    PIKE: "Send the following message to Starfleet Command. Pike, Enterprise. Planet Illyria has opened their new deluxe-sized Taco Bells. Estimate less than five days until the planet is uninhabitable."

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    HEMMER: "Well, there's your problem. The doo-hickey's thingamabob isn't doing that thing it does when you jiggle the whatzit with the you-know."
     
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  9. Vale

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    And the standard sickbay complex in TNG is far larger than we ever saw on screen, according to the official Enterprise-D blueprints, with isolation labs and intensive care units and surgical suites – what we see is essentially just the chief medical officer's office and one of ten wards for patients requiring the CMO's personal attention.
     
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  10. Nerys Myk

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    He was happy to murder the bridge crew to get what he wanted, starting with Kirk.

    Again he was willing to murder people in "Space Seed".

    She was in Sick Bay and knocked out Chapel.

    I'm thinking we will be revisiting it in a more M'Benga centered episode. His character arc.

    Did we watch the same version of "Space Seed"?
    Eh, it's a TV show. Things show up when they need to show up.

    Classic case of the "Yeah, but that's different", excuse.

    We aren't characters in a weekly TV series. Lost loves, unknown relatives, fatal diseases and dark secrets every Thursday.
     
  11. Turtletrekker

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    We see a pair of Denobulans in Lower Decks, but they weren't in Starfleet.
     
  12. Belz...

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    Yes, but if you start using that argument then logic and consistency are completely out the window and we never get to discuss anything.

    Again, there's always a point at which people will find it too unrealistic for comfort, within the premise of the show.
     
  13. Turtletrekker

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    Possibly "Unnatural Selection"?
     
  14. dswynne1

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    Well, there is no real confirmation, one way or another. However, we do know that the JJverse diverged the timeline around Kirk's birth, long after the Earth-Romulan War.
     
  15. thribs

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    Still messing with your genome. I just found it funny how it went from that to this a few weeks later.
     
  16. Jack Wolfe

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    Not permanently, and only far enough to fool a simple biometric scanner. Nobody got super strength or x-ray vision.
     
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  17. Trekker4747

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    I mean... There's a difference between using genetic manipulation to change your appearance for a few hours and using it to make yourself mentally and physically stronger, and giving you an over-inflated ego, permanently.
     
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  18. Belz...

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    Meh. DNA's overrated. ;)
     
  19. Nerys Myk

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    And McCoy.
    Sybok hit the mother lode when he captured the Enterprise.
     
  20. cooleddie74

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    "Wait...why didn't you tell me we had a human adopted sister?"
     
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