Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x06 – “Come, Let’s Away”

[fireproof78]

And you don't have to shoot someone through the heart for them to bleed out through another damaged or destroyed organ or organs.

The doctor said all my bleeding was internal. That's were the blood is supposed to be!

 

[DaveyNY]

And you'd be wrong. Early to mid 90s was the home PC boom. And no, of course they didn't have the graphics capability your average PC has today, but PC use was very wide spread, especially in office work too.

We were selling complete Packard Bell home PC's as early as Xmas 1992 at Montgomery Wards.

I got a really good deal on a returned/refurbished one with my employee discount for Christmas in 1994.
(it had a 75 MHz Intel Pentium processor, 8 MB of RAM, a 320MB hard drive and 2 CD ROM drives)

 

[cooleddie74]

Governor John Connally of Texas took a tumbling bullet through just one lung and almost died.

 

[DaveyNY]

Governor John Connally of Texas took a tumbling bullet through just one lung and almost died.

Actually, it's most likely that the intense heat from the weapon cauterized all of the internal tissue it went through.
His bodily functions would have just shut down immediately, bleeding out wouldn't have been the cause of his death.
(other than a large amount of his blood was also probably vaporized)
It appeared to go through the centerline of this chest, so part of his spinal column was probably eliminated as well.

 

[cooleddie74]

[Rick James] 32nd century weapons are a helluva technology. [/Rick James]

 

[TRON JA307020]

Well this episode while not great was the best of the series so far.

It didnt start out well. I had to see the giant faces of Mir and the betazoid girl. They were scarier than some strange violent monster aliens we've see on trek. Lol That whole scene was terrible. But once we got to the ship and adventure it was ok.

The training lesson went sideways real quick. I liked the redshirt instructor that died too soon. I really wish they would have had a bit of class on the bridge with this seasoned officer teaching them the history of the ship.

The special effects in space were good as was the battle.

Im still not liking any of the cadets to be honest. Too much young adult romance for my taste. Im too old and cynical for that stuff now. Lol I find the romance in trek boring to be honest.

They killed off the Vulcan cadet. One of the better characters. Too bad.

They are wasting the doctor. He rarely talks or is in any good scenes. He needs more to do. Maybe an episode focusing on him and what hes been up to the last 800 years.

I liked some of the confrontation with Buraka but the last one Ake just sat there listening and glaring.

The romulan singularity engine was described in tng. Im surprised it was never reverse engineered after a century.

The comic book had the wrong uniforms unless starfleet brought them back in the 31st century.


I rate the episode a 5. The highest ive given an episode to date.

 

[Eddie Roth]

Stream of consciousness incoming...

Not really sure how I feel about this episode, but my problems with it stem from more logical and structural issues than anything else.

Like it's still not clear why they just let Braka go in the first episode, after they basically murdered everyone else on his ship. Obviously he needed to escape because he's the main villain so fine, but the way he was written off the pilot made no sense then and it just comes back to me now.

The conceit of the exercise is strange too... why go through all that trouble when they presumably have even more advanced holodecks than the ones we've seen in the 24th century? They go out of their way to reset the ship after every exercise? Would that be like having Navy cadet dive teams go to the USS Arizona for exercises and then having another dive team go and scrub everything just to get it ready for the next exercise?

I think my other problem with everyone speaking like they're from 20th century Earth is that it makes the galaxy a smaller place. In the same way that all of Star Wars basically takes place on Tattooine - every movie, every tv show, every book, whatever eventually ends up there - the fact that all aliens seem to just share common references to 20th century American English humanity just makes these characters more like Bond villains than actual aliens.

So not only does Braka and the bat aliens speak English, they also speak French and know what "bon appetite" means and how it's meant to be a troll because they purposefully sent an easily decrypted message in two human languages. Somehow Braka knows the Sound of Music to be able to make a reference that he assumes Ake and the others would understand, and he also knows how to use a record player. Yeah, it's a nitpick, but I don't get why he needed to be an alien at that point... just make him human. What's the difference?

There's also Genesis knowing the idiom needle in a haystack, but I just try my best to ignore that stuff from the regular cast now.

As for the meat of the episode, it's interesting because I'm not sure what the A and B stories are this week. It almost feels like what happens to the cadets is pretty incidental compared to the Ake/Braka storyline. And if anything the cadet storyline felt like a bit of a letdown because of how they've depicted the whole "warring frat houses" thing. I guess it's sad that B'Avi does, but not because it's B'Avi in particular, but because it's just generally sad when someone dies. If they at least did an episode from the War College's perspective, then maybe it wouldn't feel like a red shirt death. I get you're not going to kill any of the main cast, and I get the beat of making the cadets - Braka refers to them as teens - experience death first hand... but killing two people I don't really know just makes it a bit hollow for me as an audience member.

Still, I thought the Tarima reveal of being a Tam Elbrun-esque figure was an interesting development at least. And showing how SAM is vulnerable, considering she had previously made herself basically impervious to weapons fire in the laser tag episode, at least explains why she can't just tank everything I guess. But the Miyazaki and the lore of the crew... I don't know if Tales From the Frontier is a real comic book, but without any kind of connection to it as an audience member it's similar to B'Avi's death where I guess it's sad that a crew lost their lives but oh well. They might as well be the dead people on Station J119 that all got massacred in this episode.

Incidentally that reminds me - there are clearly Japanese people in this universe if they are naming ships after Japanese people, but no one makes like anime references instead of American pop culture references? No one says calls someone a bakayaro instead of asshole, or refers to going Super Saiyan or whatever? I mean I assume this ship isn't named after Hayao Miyazaki but maybe have someone talk about cat buses or how Caleb is total Totoro or something.

I think the Ake/Braka thing was more interesting, even though I don't like how it was basically two scenes where the characters monologued at each other. It reminded me of why I didn't like Shaw in Picard S3, because they just had him yell at Picard instead of doing or showing anything that would explain that relationship. So you get a lore dump of Ake letting her son die when faced with a "no win scenario". Like the idea is fine and turning it into an Eddington moment of the Federation being the Borg is fine too, especially if connected to the Klingon episode and Jay-Den's argument about how the Federation tries to force its culture onto the Klingons... I just wish it was presented better.

I *have* to assume that the "Star Trek" thing to do would be that Ake brings Braka to justice and not "end him" as the Admiral suggests at the end of the episode. Like that seems to be the only logical solution to this. Or at least it is like a classic Kirk battle where Ake offers Braka a chance to surrender but he chooses to die instead, maybe taking the secret of Caleb's mother with him. But I'm invested in seeing how that turns out, assuming they wrap it up this season.

I dunno... I really liked last week's episode despite its issues (like the pointless bar scene), so I'm a bit disappointed to find another episode where I like the individual pieces but the episode as a whole ends up being less than the sum of its parts.

I guess at least this show hasn't made me angry at the wasted potential like SNW S3 did?

You basically said most the things I was going to say about this episode, which I thought was fine, but not the best yet. And that mainly has to do with it being so mired in plot mechanics (this team and that team, and this alien faction and that alien faction, and another starship and station) that it was hard to see what the larger point of it all was. If this was merely set-up to get someone killed and impart on the characters the gravity of their situation, then alright, but still how we get there was, I felt, unnecessarily convoluted. It can be seen as character development for Ake to learn that she had a son, which would explain why she cares so much for the cadets in general, and Caleb in particular. But as pointed out, it felt planted for some later purpose.

I've actually been pleasantly surprised with Academy so far. But I still miss the Michael Piller days when it was always clear in a story what function it had for the main characters, or where it had a discernible theme being investigated. These days, that's not always so clear.

 

[ToddCam]

Ake's son was already established. In the pilot, I think?

 

[Mudd]

Liver.

I think a massive hit through the center of your chest would be a kill shot, no matter where your heart is,

Unless it's the old "managed to avoid hitting any major organs" trope.

There have to be blood channels to the brain, right? They're going to pass through the upper abdomen.

 

[Mudd]

My first home computer was an 8088 (not 8086) put together by a coworker from spare parts. He sold me a CPU for a couple hundred bucks. Storage was two 5.25 inch floppy drives.

A few years later I swapped in a 286 motherboard and added a 30mb hard drive.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Ake's son was already established. In the pilot, I think?

Yep. Student at the Academy killed in the burn.

 

[Bornin1980something]

Yep. Student at the Academy killed in the burn.

We assumed that he had died at the moment of the Burn, with no warning. It now seems the truth is darker.

 

[tenmei]

Yep. Student at the Academy killed in the burn.

So we have a couple of mysteries from this now -

i) Was Ake in command of a ship or a station, and how did it it emerge from the Burn unscathed

ii) Braka suggests that Ake Junior's ship may have survived the Burn, at least long enough that she could have saved him from his fate

 

[Discovery McDiscoveryFace]

Stuff like this has been part of Trek from day one and it never really bothered me or kept me from falling in love with the characters, the story or the lore. Remember when we used to find stuff like “James R. Kirk” charming? There‘s hundreds of these kind of errors and mistakes all throughout Trek, and it‘s usually elements that become pieces of trivia that fill interesting behind-the-scenes books and separate casual viewers from hardcore Trekkies.


I‘m not saying you are wrong, but if that‘s indeed how it shakes out and Pickford is revealed to be Braka‘s associate, then I would question the logic of her assuming a character that sticks out like a sore thumb as much as she does. Personally I rather she‘s just meant as comic relief and on a meta level a reminder that not everyone is cut out to be Academy material. That or she has some hidden talent that will be revealed in a surprising twist. I guess we‘ll see. So far I‘m just glad they didn‘t immediately forget about the character.

Para 1 above - yes but in those days we were getting an episode every 2 weeks for 15 years - every week for 7 of those years. We weren't waiting a year for post-production on ten episodes. I think that is why people are less forgiving.

Para 2 - or she is hiding in plain sight. Sticking out like a wrong 'un but in a different way. Playing the idiot so you don't detect the malice or deceit behind it - Boris Johnson made a career from doing just that.

 

[Uhura's Song]

Curiously you gave 1.01 a 6, said 1.02 was better than 1.01 (so 7), 1.03 got a 4, but you said 1.04 was the best episode of the season (thus 8 if 1.02 is 7), and then gave 1.05 an 8/10.

Out of 6 episodes, youve scored 4 at 6/10 or higher.

It really doesn't sound like you dislike it at all.

So kind of you to speak for me.

I was being kind to the show early, hoping it would find it's footing.

But the crass profanity has gotten worse and really takes away from it for me. And the ship that was supposedly keeping the station safe getting disabled with one shot makes no sense.

The previous 6's should have been lower and the 8 was probably too kind.

There have been elements that just really bothered me about the show. The tone. The humor. Ahke's behavior.

But please refrain from telling me what I do and do not like. And I am trying to temain civil here.

Maybe I will check it out again when SNW is back, but I am out for now.

 

[Michael]

So kind of you to speak for me.

But please refrain from telling me what I do and do not like. And I am trying to temain civil here.

What are you talking about? @tenmei just listed the scores you gave for the individual episodes and said it didn‘t sound like you dislike the show based on those scores. They are not “telling” you anything, just commenting on the scores you publicly posted.

Also, “remaining civil” is a prerequisite for taking part in this discussion. I hope you don‘t expect any kind of bonus points for “trying”.

 

[Nerys Myk]

trekAnd the ship that was supposedly keeping the station safe getting disabled with one shot makes no sense.

So, you're saying it's Star Trek?

 

[Fateor]

That close a shot most likely vaporized most of his lung tissue.

Kinda tough to save someone from that kind of damage.

For us sure, for Star Trek of the 32nd century it should be relatively simple.

 

[cooleddie74]

Amazing how so many fans are baffled and angered by Star Trek things that have been in Star Trek since 1966.

 

[tenmei]

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