Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x06 – “Come, Let’s Away”

[Turtletrekker]

Re: The Deltan ritual

I like how it's equal chances she's making this BS up (like they did the guy who had a wing named after him in "Beta Test") or it really is a ritual done for her losing her virginity she didn't ask for.

I could be mistaken, but didn't she refer to it as being her first time with a Deltan and not her "first time"?

And it occurs to me that this may mean that the Deltan homeworld was one of the worlds that was protected behind the Betazoid psionic shield.

 

[CT_Phipps]

I could be mistaken, but didn't she refer to it as being her first time with a Deltan and not her "first time"?

And it occurs to me that this may mean that the Deltan homeworld was one of the worlds that was protected behind the Betazoid psionic shield.

I thought her first time was with a Deltan. Which is its own thing.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Betazoid and Deltan is an interesting pairing.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

And it occurs to me that this may mean that the Deltan homeworld was one of the worlds that was protected behind the Betazoid psionic shield.

I wonder what Moll and L'ak planned to do about that when they thought there was a clue on Betazed

 

[Turtletrekker]

I wonder what Moll and L'ak planned to do about that when they thought there was a clue on Betazed

They probably would have bought a plot device on the black market. Discovery could have just jumped past it.

 

[CT_Phipps]

Betazoid and Deltan is an interesting pairing.

Betazoids are not a sexually immature species I presume.

 

[CT_Phipps]

They probably would have bought a plot device on the black market.

Obviously, the psionic wall wasn't 100% effective since Mama Caleb got past it.

Maybe they had a rope.

 

[Tosk]

Part Deltan, to be precise.

 

[cooleddie74]

The specifications for the Miyazaki. Launched in 3067, just before the Burn.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

I didn't notice during the episode but that hologram doesnt look exactly like a Constitution or the kitbash they used.

 

[Fateor]

Re: The Deltan ritual

I like how it's equal chances she's making this BS up (like they did the guy who had a wing named after him in "Beta Test") or it really is a ritual done for her losing her virginity she didn't ask for.

Given what we know about Deltan's, she almost surely was.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I gave it an 8. Paul Giamatti was so much more interesting in this episode than in the premiere and they're giving a more interesting face to the same grievance against the Federation T'kuvma had in Discovery. The NuTrek writers clearly want to do an "Enemy of Federation as Anticolonial" thing and years later they finally figured out a better way to phrase it.

They also did a pretty good job staging the situation on the ship but it might have worked better if they made it a little more tactical. Like when they threatened to space someone try to push them toward Sam cause she can survive being spaced. Why not when they're talking about who gets spaced first, they all try to manipulate them into spacing Sam and all have to pretend she died when all she has to do is float there until help arrives? Some missed opportunities, but overall a really good episode.

 

[Tuskin38]

or the kitbash they used.

Looks identical to me. Check the images posted here, Markonian's post #451

Starfleet Academy Starship Thread

This is my point? The Sampson/Wallenberg and Walker both come from the same concept art which is also where two of Eaves' other STO concepts come from). I'm aware of the Leondegrance copy/paste but I wasn't really discussing that (and I hope to god it gets retconned and they just use something...

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[Set Harth]

Everyone I knew in the 90s had a PC or Apple machine in their homes.

We didn't get a decent computer until around 2000. Before that what we had was shit.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Looks identical to me.

No you're right, for some reason I remembered the saucer being narrower and less circular. I dont know why.

 

[eschaton]

Grew up in a household with computers, as my dad was an early adopter. I got his hand-me down 286 before I was 10, so it must've been 1989 or earlier. He was so sick of be going onto his computer and messing with things, he was just like "here, have this!"

Blew out the video card with static discharge installing my first CD-ROM into that computer. Which allowed me to upgrade the card from EGA to VGA, which was nice.

Eventually I somehow destroyed the computer by clicking to run a file called IBMbios.com while in Windows. Got a 486-SX 25 after that, which lasted me until college.

Didn't actually get on the internet until just before my senior year of HS, which would be summer of 1996. Parents never wanted to do the AOL thing, and never let me call into local BBSes, so I had to wait until there were local ISPs.

Stuff like this has been part of Trek from day one and it never really bothered me or kept me from falling in love with the characters, the story or the lore. Remember when we used to find stuff like “James R. Kirk” charming? There‘s hundreds of these kind of errors and mistakes all throughout Trek, and it‘s usually elements that become pieces of trivia that fill interesting behind-the-scenes books and separate casual viewers from hardcore Trekkies.

I don't really mind this stuff, per se, but it's been so omnipresent across the newer Trek series that it's a bit strange. If it were just a problem with early Discovery or something, I could just boil it down to learning curves, or maybe a showrunner not really caring much about visual stuff. But it's all over the place, and really gives the impression of some pretty hands-off management when it comes to production design (which is very, very different from the rigid nature of basically all design during Berman Trek).

 

[Aeolusdallas]

A sad episode. I also didn't think the sex scene was necessary.

Why? It's clearly what Rodenberry would have wanted. But joke aside seriously.....why is it unnecessary

 

[Macintosh]

Well that seemed to be a snook cocked squarely at the so-called fans whining online that this is an inconsequential "teen show", because I thought it was dark as hell, and very much a classic "base under siege" story. Nus Braka is turning out to be a much more compelling villain than the somewhat clownish figure he was initially presented as being. Nahla Ake was much more interesting this episode too after the frankly distractingly weird performance Holly Hunter gave in the last episode.

 

[firehawk12]

I dunno. I certainly see where you are coming from with this, but in all of these kind of instances — be it the “Find all seven mistakes” Sisko family tree, the oddities in the faux “Tales from the Frontier” comic book, or the color of B‘Avi‘s blood — the art department‘s or FX house‘s shortcomings didn‘t really have any negative impact on the story for me.

I was focussed on the emotionality of SAM finding the Jake Sisko recording, invested enough in the action of “Come, Let‘s Away” to really care about the details of the comic, and shocked by B‘Avi‘s unexpected heroic sacrifice to let myself be bothered by some VFX mistake.

Stuff like this has been part of Trek from day one and it never really bothered me or kept me from falling in love with the characters, the story or the lore. Remember when we used to find stuff like “James R. Kirk” charming? There‘s hundreds of these kind of errors and mistakes all throughout Trek, and it‘s usually elements that become pieces of trivia that fill interesting behind-the-scenes books and separate casual viewers from hardcore Trekkies.

I don't disagree, it's not stuff I noticed either to be honest. But I can also see why people would take it as people not putting the proper care into their craft either.

 

[DaveyNY]

And you don't have to shoot someone through the heart for them to bleed out through another damaged or destroyed organ or organs.

That close a shot most likely vaporized most of his lung tissue.

Kinda tough to save someone from that kind of damage.