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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x05 – “Series Acclimation Mil”

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 46 27.2%
  • 9

    Votes: 41 24.3%
  • 8

    Votes: 26 15.4%
  • 7

    Votes: 22 13.0%
  • 6

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  • 5

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • 4

    Votes: 3 1.8%
  • 3

    Votes: 5 3.0%
  • 2

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • 1 - Terrible.

    Votes: 12 7.1%

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Because if uniforms aren't gendered, hair length shouldn't be either.
Hair length is not gendered. Jay-den identifies as male and has long hair and there are male cadets in the background who have long hair. Also Sandro Rosta was wearing a wig. His hair is the same length and styled the same way in real life .
The prop was dumb. It was obviously made from a giant gummi bear or gummi candy. Probably melted in a microwave and poured it into a mold and cooled it in the freezer. When Obrien was eating his on DS9 it was more like a lollipop not a giant gummi candy.
Is there anything you won't whinge about? You do know that foodstuffs can be different for any number of reasons, right? Like you can have hard candy or soft candy. Foods can also have regional differences as well. Maybe the hard jumja are from kendra province and soft jumja is from rakantha province.

If you're at the point where you are criticising made up food, you really need to reassess your life.
 
The DS9 music in the end credits still has sound effects on it...did they just pull it straight from a finished episode instead of using the actual music cue?!

Although the version used is obviously an edit (and possibly combines more than one version) so maybe the SFX were intentional for an attempt at added nostalgia?
It's the same version La-La Land's DS9 soundtrack collection used. Only the second volume of the collection used the version without the sound effects as an alternate on the last disc.

Is there anything you won't whinge about?
If these threads have demonstrated anything, there's no bottom to that sewer.
 
It's the same version La-La Land's DS9 soundtrack collection used. Only the second volume of the collection used the version without the sound effects as an alternate on the last disc.
Fair enough. I'd have used a non-SFX version, but it is what it is. :)
 
Nobody tell Mil about Thoroughly Modern Millie.

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Looks like Tawny may have been given advice from Terry
I'm not saying she didn't, but Tawny's comments on the post do not seem to indicate that to be the case.

"Professor Illa was an honor. I hope I did her justice. Thank you Terry and Nicole for the template. Devouring hours of their beautiful work for the past 39 years made it easy to do mine."

Again, I'm definitely not saying she didn't. Only that you'd think she'd have worded it differently if that were the case.
 
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I'm going to start with the main story... and please bear wth me, because this will be a long post. In fact, it is so long, I will be putting this review in Spoiler tags.



If you all know my posting history, you know how much I deeply love DEEP SPACE NINE. And Captain Benjamin Sisko in particular... who is, in my view, the greatest captain in the franchise. So seeing the trailer for the episode made me feel two things at the same time: excitement that we might get some answers about whether he returned or not, and also utter terror because I was afraid of what the writers might do to his character or the situation, given how I don't really trust the group of live action writers of this era.

I have to say: I feel like they honored him and his legacy well. Ironically, they answered the question of whether he returned or not by NOT answering it. Sound confusing? I'll try to put my feelings into something more coherent.

We all had that burning question for over a quarter of a century now: did Sisko return from the Celestial Temple? Was he there to watch his new baby grow up? The key to this is Jake. In reality, this tribute was less about Ben Sisko and more about JAKE Sisko, and I think that was the best way to go. You can't talk about Ben as a father without Jake being part of that conversation. It is literally impossible. The bond between them was so clearly visible on screen in every scene they were together on DS9, but people sometimes forget about the Jake side of the equation. But here, with just those two scenes with Jake, we get a LOT. Not only did he have a measure of peace and serenity, but he was living a full, happy life. In many ways, this was the exact opposite of "THE VISITOR", which even though it is one of the two greatest episodes in the entire franchise, is a sad story, despite it being realistic in the sense of loss and grief. Here, we get a happy story, and I don't think Benjamin could be unhappy with that outcome, even though he wasn't there physically. This is where I feel "THE VISITOR" and this part of the episode were quite similar... they dealt with loss and grief. Just in different ways. And that spoke to me.

I am by no means a person of faith. But there are times when I can feel my grandparents are still around me. It's impossible for me to prove it because they are gone... physically. But the essence of who they were, the values they taught me, the love they gave me... it's a part of my core being. I use all that I got from them to live and do right by my family and others. THAT is what the hologram of Jake was telling us, and I got every word of it because I KNOW it and I FEEL it. Jake was the legacy of Ben Sisko, just like I am the legacy of my grandparents and my mom. So the answer to the question: did Ben Sisko return from the Celestial Temple? The answer is simple: it doesn't matter. He was still around because of how Jake lived, so a part of him never actually left. And that scene just made me cry.

And speaking of Ben always being around: I know exactly why Jake never published his book, Anslem. It was his personal connection to his father, and was another way to keep his spirit alive. He knew he would one day be gone, but he wanted his father to keep living in some way. So what does he do? He gives it to a Dax (whichever one was host at the time Jake did so) because he knew Dax would be living for centuries more after he was gone. And I think that was part of why he felt that measure of peace... he knew that a part of his father would keep going even after he was long gone. I understand that feeling because I have... an item that is very much the essence of who my grandmother was, and I know exactly who I will be giving it to after I die. Dax was the PERFECT choice to be given that book... Curzon was Ben's mentor, Jadzia was his friend, and Ezri was one Ben mentored during that final season. I thought that was very fitting.

I was quite surprised that Jake appeared here, and I was also quite surprised to hear Avery Brooks' voice again at the end! I was floored! After some looking, I find out what he said was basically some poetry he did years ago, and he gave the studio permission to use it. But that works for me, particularly since WHAT he said was so beautiful. I was already starting to tear up while he spoke, but then "Thank you, Avery" appears on screen, and the DS9 theme plays over the credits... I was crying again.

I cannot emphasize enough how much DEEP SPACE NINE and Benjamin Sisko means to me, so as a lifetime Niner... I was pleased by this.

There were, however, several glaring errors. First, the image of Sisko's lineage had Jenna Sisko as the 'non-corporeal' person, which is completely false. Sarah was the human that was inhabited by the Prophet and was Benjamin's mother, so she would be considered the 'non-corporeal being'. Second, they spelled Kasidy Yates' name wrong... Kasidy has one 's', not two in her name. Third, why was Ben and Kasidy's baby not shown on the chart? You don't want to explore what happened to their baby, fine... but if you go the route of having a huge graphic that shows their family tree, at least acknowledge the baby's existence. And do some basic research, like who Sarah was and Kasidy's spelling. (Seriously, all of those things are not difficult to do... BOTH Penny Johnson and Deborah Lacey were credited on screen with their character's names during the first act of episodes they appeared in. And the beginning of season 7 and multiple episodes of the final arc had Sarah. And Kasidy is pregnant in the finale and the end of the episode before it, "THE DOGS OF WAR". It feels like some AI generated graphic where no one bothered to double check it.) And fourth, why wasn't Benjamin's sister, Judith, and his two brothers shown?

The use of Sam as the focal point of this episode was a good choice. To be honest, I have found her grating in the series thus far. Kind of annoying, and I know it is rather by design since she was a hologram that was just created only a few months prior to the pilot, but Sam just comes across as rather annoying. This episode does help her character quite a bit... at least, after the theme. Before the theme, it was simply and utterly terrible. I was actually very, VERY worried this was going to be a terrible episode based on that beginning: the elementary school level icons over the screen, glitter barf, the background music, etc. (That is definitely something that I am not enjoying about this show, the background music. It just doesn't work for me AT ALL.) I was NOT enjoying the beginning whatsoever.

However, her journey of self-discovery through learning about Sisko was done well. The use of a storybook for telling Sisko's tale when she was talking to her friends was an interesting touch, and I liked it... it gave Benjamin's story an almost mythic quality. I also appreciate that the writers understood Ben by keeping true to something that is rarely said: when Benjamin Sisko loves, he loves unreservedly. His family, his duty, his friends, food, baseball... it's one of the reasons why he is so exceptional among all the leaders in the franchise. I'm glad it was said here, because that is him in a nutshell. And it allowed him to do amazing things across those 7 years we saw him on screen. Him being rather trapped in his role as Emissary, and her feeling the same... great parallels. I like how she essentially did a Sisko and told her Makers off. She will fulfill her role, but she will do it HER way, just as Ben Sisko did.

(I will say that The Makers are a straight lift from FARSCAPE. Specifically, the Ancients in season 1's "A Human Reaction". They were testing Crichton to see if Earth, and humans, could be trusted and are accepting enough to allow them to live there. This is not a new concept, either, but this felt exactly like that. It's another aspect of the series that lifts completely off another scifi show.)

The story with the cadets and the War College kids REALLY drags this episode down. Between the Atrium scene and the bar fight, it really knocks this episode down hard. This story could have been completely excised from the episode and it would have improved TREMENDOUSLY.

The B story with Ake and Kelric: it was okay. I didn't love it or hate it. The dinner had some funny moments in it, but overall it was mostly just there. But it DID illustrate one issue I have had since episode 3, and I'm glad Ake said it herself: how can the cadets learn to live and work together if the leaders of the Academy and the War College can't even do it? It goes back to what I have said about how the Chancellor sets the tone for the Academy, and why despite me liking the character of Ake, I don't like her as a leader/officer. You are supposed to be the adults in the room. Please act like it... if not for yourselves, at least do it so these cadets have good examples to learn from.



Had the cadet stuff in the atrium and bar not happened, I might have given this episode a 10... it made me cry twice. (Obviously, my love for DS9 helps the score.) But because of that, I will give this an 8. I feel that even though this episode scores higher for me, "Vox in Excelso" is actually a better episode because the structure was better.


(Edited to add:

After talking with my wife, who also loves DS9 and Sisko, she makes a valid point... that graphic with all those errors cheapens him a bit. You do a tribute to something, the facts should be accurate... particularly since it's a museum.
It does irritate me that those very simple facts were wrong. And I should be insulted a bit by that, since I also hold the other shows to similar standards. Therefore, I will revise my score to a 7.5. It still rounds up to an 8 on the site, but I had to adjust for accuracy's sake.)


I mentioned the below in another post, but I feel it bears repeating as an addendum to the review.


Regarding Ben not coming back from the Celestial Temple...


There is something that I have not seen anybody consider about him not returning. He remembers his appearances throughout Jake's life in the alternate future in "THE VISITOR". He knows it had a very aderse affect on Jake (after he was forced to leave DS9 and was on Earth, for years Jake was actually living a good life: he was married and he was a published author... until Ben appeared in his living room again), and was doing exactly what Ben was doing from Wolf 359 to the end of the pilot... he was stuck in that moment of Jennifer's death. He did not really move on with his life.

More than anything, Ben would want Jake to live a happy, full life. To help assure this, he did not appear physically to him because he knew how that could do the exact opposite. Look at how serene and at peace the hologram of Jake was. He was able to let go. Jake did not exist in that final shot of DS9, as his father did for years after Jennifer's death.

In a way, Ben did for Jake what the Prophets did for him in "EMISSARY". Sometimes the best way to love someone is to let them go. And that was clearly a good decision, as we see based on the Jake hologram.
 
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The prop was dumb. It was obviously made from a giant gummi bear or gummi candy. Probably melted in a microwave and poured it into a mold and cooled it in the freezer. When Obrien was eating his on DS9 it was more like a lollipop not a giant gummi candy.

Dude.

It's 820 years later.

Things change over time. Well, except your routine.
 
Yeah because she was a human woman that a prophet possessed. Once the prophet vacated Sarah's body she understandably freaked out about having a child with a man she did not know or consent to being with and fled to Australia where she died in a shuttle accident.
Thats a fair argument and something I forgot about. Still, he could still find some way to contact them like he did with Kasidy right before he went to the temple.
 
Thats a fair argument and something I forgot about. Still, he could still find some way to contact them like he did with Kasidy right before he went to the temple.

I really wished they'd retcon that.

Like Sarah and the Prophet were a symbiote or done voluntarily or something.

I'm surprised it never came up in the Expanded Universe.
 
Surely saving billions of lives from "a whole universe in flames" makes someone a great dad. For all the kids in the whole universe, including Jake!

Is that what it is? I’ve been looking and looking at that shot after hearing hints, and not seeing him (or anything else)…

(Cue “can’t see the sailboat” jokes…)

Here's the face in the clouds:




Regarding Ben not coming back from the Celestial Temple...

There is something that I have not seen anybody consider about him not returning. He remembers his appearances throughout Jake's life in the alternate future in "THE VISITOR". He knows it had a very adverse affect on Jake (after he was forced to leave DS9 and was on Earth, for years Jake was actually living a good life: he was married and he was a published author... until Ben appeared in his living room again), and was doing exactly what Ben was doing from Wolf 359 to the end of the pilot... he was stuck in that moment of Jennifer's death. He did not really move on with his life.

More than anything, Ben would want Jake to live a happy, full life. To help assure this, he did not appear physically to him because he knew how that could do the exact opposite. Look at how serene and at peace the hologram of Jake was. He was able to let go. Jake did not exist in that final shot of DS9, as his father did for years after Jennifer's death.

In a way, Ben did for Jake what the Prophets did for him in "EMISSARY". Sometimes the best way to love someone is to let them go. And that was clearly a good decision, as we see based on the Jake hologram.


(This also assumes that Ben actually had the ability to return.)
Thta's a great explanation, makes perfect sense!
 
It changed a lot due to the Temporal Cold War *

* I was genuinely stunned that this wasn't why they did ENTERPRISE as a way to free up the timeline.
All the problems with poor supposed continuity violations (note: not canon) can be solved with Temporal War shenanigans.


Except, despite having a perfectly reasonable explanation in the vaunted canon as confirmed by the stellar series ENTERPRISE this explanation is deemed "bad/lazy writing." :shrug:
 
The prop was dumb. It was obviously made from a giant gummi bear or gummi candy. Probably melted in a microwave and poured it into a mold and cooled it in the freezer. When Obrien was eating his on DS9 it was more like a lollipop not a giant gummi candy.
It was supposed to be sort of gummy.

The reason it wasn't in DS9 was that those were inedible props.
 
I really wished they'd retcon that.

Like Sarah and the Prophet were a symbiote or done voluntarily or something.

I'm surprised it never came up in the Expanded Universe.
It amazes me writers and so on actually went with that. Its like WW84 where a body is taken over and forced to do sexual acts +. At least in the DS9 case you could make an argument that the prophets have no concept of morality. still, I agree and it should of just do a ret con of that.

Back 27 years ago. At the Time. Thats why they changed the ending.

His sign off might have been.. I don't care anymore, I'm retired doin my own thing. Do what you will .

I'd like to hear it from him rather than a third party. My theory is that he did not want anything to do with it until Cirroc got him down to just agree to something. At his age I imagine he just didn't care about it anymore.
 
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