Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x05 – “Series Acclimation Mil”
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Thankfully the toga hasn't really swung back around lately.
Give the Edo people time.
It's the final step before energy being.
Try '30s sci-fi and see Things To Come...
Better than Mr Neelix's barfy suits...
2408 Jake is no longer bus seat upholstery, now he's warp capable tram uphosltery.
oh ok
Quite right Dar. When we look at the writi n g frim the best of TOS and from rich complex shiws like DS9 the kurtzman shows look poor in comparison. SNW started out pretty strong but its really lost it way sonce season 2. We got a puppet episode on the way. Maybe that will set the show right. Lol.
Weirdly, when TrekCore and TrekMovie asked Tawny Newsome about playing Dax she seems to give a different answer?
TrekMove:
Was there any question you would write yourself into the episode… and as Dax? Did you have to think twice or was it more “Of course!”
No, I was the last piece of this puzzle. I did not intend to write myself in at all. Because it didn’t occur to me that I would be anyone other than Mariner. And I thought it would be a little too cheeky to have some future version of Mariner or some descendant. It just seemed too irreverent for the magnitude of this episode. So no, I love Professor Illa, who was constructed by me and Kirsten [Beyer] and she was meant to be the perfect shepherd for this story. It was so important that we had someone who it made sense that she would have the only copy of Jake’s book. A lot of intentionality went into who could this be? And then when we all kind of went, “Oh, you know, the Trill lifespan could be this long. This could be Dax,” it really excited Noga Landau, our showrunner. It excited all of us. And we went, “Okay, yeah, let’s make this Dax.” And then, as I said, I was the last piece of the puzzle [laughs] when they said, “Okay, and Tawny is going to do it” it was quite a surprise, I think, for all of us. But I had really great support from showrunners and from Kirsten.
TrekCore:
And how did you end up coming in to play the Dax role?
Well, that came about in a strange way, because that was not written to be me. Honestly, we were just trying to save money on a guest star! (Laughs) I said, “Why don’t I just do it?” and everyone just said, “Okay!”
TrekMove:
Was there any question you would write yourself into the episode… and as Dax? Did you have to think twice or was it more “Of course!”
No, I was the last piece of this puzzle. I did not intend to write myself in at all. Because it didn’t occur to me that I would be anyone other than Mariner. And I thought it would be a little too cheeky to have some future version of Mariner or some descendant. It just seemed too irreverent for the magnitude of this episode. So no, I love Professor Illa, who was constructed by me and Kirsten [Beyer] and she was meant to be the perfect shepherd for this story. It was so important that we had someone who it made sense that she would have the only copy of Jake’s book. A lot of intentionality went into who could this be? And then when we all kind of went, “Oh, you know, the Trill lifespan could be this long. This could be Dax,” it really excited Noga Landau, our showrunner. It excited all of us. And we went, “Okay, yeah, let’s make this Dax.” And then, as I said, I was the last piece of the puzzle [laughs] when they said, “Okay, and Tawny is going to do it” it was quite a surprise, I think, for all of us. But I had really great support from showrunners and from Kirsten.
TrekCore:
And how did you end up coming in to play the Dax role?
Well, that came about in a strange way, because that was not written to be me. Honestly, we were just trying to save money on a guest star! (Laughs) I said, “Why don’t I just do it?” and everyone just said, “Okay!”
That was hilarious.
So it's an official Discovery retcon then.
Given the cockuppery of the Sisko family tree I would say it is more likely one oversight among many
Nah, I think they knew what they were doing there. It's an honest retcon.
There are reasonable in universe explanations for the family tree mistakes. (Sans the spelling errors.)
But Dax still being young and outgoing when Discovery tried to argue symbiotes only had a 7-800 year lifespans doesn't really have the same.
Almost surely.
And it was an inevitable one too, because there was no way future Trek writers would ever be able to resist bringing back Dax.
I accept the possibility, considering they said it's rare for a symbiont to live 800 years but the symbionts aren't joined as soon as they're born so Bix would have been over 900 more likely (one could interpret 800 years outside the pools) but for now I think I'm going to stick with the headcanon that Dax hosts had some interesting adventures that took them on a less than linear path to the 3190s. Until such a time as something concrete makes that impossible to reconcile.
They also didn't have interconnected computers that held tens of thousands of backups. We have a hard time eliminating or hiding data today, the meme ( the internet never forgets) is going to be doubly true over the next 1300 years.
The burn just does not seem like a force that can really harm digital information outside the ships that held it, But that is a small fraction of the computers and so on that held that data, that was nowhere near the burn.
Ocampa lived only a maximum of nine years, until at least a few of them didn't.
They say a lot of things that are "true", until they say the next thing. That's how canon and continuity works. Who thought Klingons were a long lived species until the TOS three showed up on DS9? A lot of fanon and Lit had them with short lifespans. Even with the Trill we got one version in TNG and another in DS9. The TNG version faded into obscurity.
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