We pick up things from other cultures all of the time. Words. Food. Gestures. Fashions.
Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x03 – “Vitus Reflux”
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"When in Rome..."
Spock: "There is an old Vulcan proverb. 'Only Nixon could go to China.' "
Considering Earth was a xenophobic planet for a hundred years, it seems odd even if you had humans in the Federation or at least on post-Burn starships traveling around.
Or at this point, apparently we can just blame everything on the universal translator and just pretend she did some Romulan gesture that got translated into blowing air kisses somehow... just like Betazoids using ASL.
It's not like cultural artifacts would cease to be spread around, even if humans were not journeying as much.
A xenophobic planet for hundreds of years? Um what? Where are you getting that from?
Why would it seem odd? Expatriates often keep their cultures alive. And of course there were humans in the Federation post-Burn. We see them throughout Discovery. First and foremost in Admiral Vance. Plus all the human colonies that didn't join Earth in isolation.
The Mariposa Colony in TNG that was established around the time of or even before ENT kept a lot of 22nd century and even older attitudes that were on full display when Data and the Enterprise-D crew visited that planet in Season 5.
I guess since there's a Nazi planet, a Roman Empire planet, a Gangster planet, and a Western planet in Star Trek I suppose you're all right. lol
At least the SNW Klingons encountered K-Pop before they got brainwashed by Shakespeare!
To be semi-series, and I know it's a TV show for Americans so it is what it is, but a human hegemonic future is kind of depressing because it means in a galaxy full of infinite cultures and artistic production, they chose 20th century American culture to consume.
At least the SNW Klingons encountered K-Pop before they got brainwashed by Shakespeare!
I don't think Xenophobic is the right word to use as the Earth Defense Force is portrayed as multi-species. Hawkish and Reactionary maybe, but they weren't racists.
The Romulan giving the fuck-off gesture made me laugh but at the same time it is a huge failure of imagination on the part of the writers to just have every character in their sci-fi comedy act like an American teenager from 2026 (or what a middle-aged writer assumes a teenager acts like in 2026, which ends up being an unholy amalgamation of 80s jock characters mixed with TikTok slang).
For some reason none of this is bothering me though; something about SFA just feels much less like a cynical use of the Star Trek IP than virtually all other stuff since Discovery. I have no idea how that's the case given that on paper it's the most obviously cynical use of the franchise yet, but somehow it's working so far.
For some reason none of this is bothering me though; something about SFA just feels much less like a cynical use of the Star Trek IP than virtually all other stuff since Discovery. I have no idea how that's the case given that on paper it's the most obviously cynical use of the franchise yet, but somehow it's working so far.
The Big Goodbye is a great episode. I remember thinking just how far starfleet had advanced its tech with the holodeck sobce kirks day.I thought the talosians would even be impressed.
There aren't many legitimately great episodes in Season 1, but "The Big Goodbye," "Conspiracy" and "The Neutral Zone" are three of them.
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I suppose xenophobic in terms of not wanting any outsiders approaching the planet, not necessarily racist. They shunned the Titan humans like they a hostile invasion force and presumably forgot that there was a human colony out there. It took Burnham telling them to knock it off before they got over themselves. When Starfleet and the Federation abandoned them, they presumably decided to just go inwards and close off their "borders" completely.
From the ongoing comic series The Last Starship, by the returning writers of Star Trek: Year Five, Star Trek, and Star Trek: Defiant. One may or may not agree with the writer choices in the four issues thus far. (I have severe gripes about their past and present writing.)
In issue #1, the Burn wipes out 96% of Starfleet. The few captains who reassemble on Earth decide out of fear that they cannot use warp drive, so Queen Agnes Jurati offers to help build a Borg transwarp drive on a new ship as long as she becomes chief engineer and can resurrect James T. Kirk.
In issues #2 and #3, a Klingon death cult attacks all Federation outposts in their path, culminating in dropping their warp cores on Earth, the largest mass-fatality event since the Chicxulub meteor killed the dinosaurs. Immediately, United Earth declares independence from the Federation. No, we never get to meet any United Earth leaders who make this decision.
In issue #4, for arbitrary writer reasons, the Borg transwarp method cannot counteract the time dilation of 4 months to 23 years while the hero starship U.S.S. Omega assembles delegates for a new Babel conference while United Earth has given the Federation a deadline to remove all Federation institutions.
Periodically, over 23 years in normal spacetime, the XO returns to his family's home on Earth. To his dismay, his holographic butler is requisitioned by the state for other tasks, people shun replicators for being Federation technology, and United Earth corrals all remaining Starfleet officers for expulsion. The XO's old Orion friend then dons an armband with the insignia of the Emerald Chain...
In issues #2 and #3, a Klingon death cult attacks all Federation outposts in their path, culminating in dropping their warp cores on Earth, the largest mass-fatality event since the Chicxulub meteor killed the dinosaurs. Immediately, United Earth declares independence from the Federation. No, we never get to meet any United Earth leaders who make this decision.
In issue #4, for arbitrary writer reasons, the Borg transwarp method cannot counteract the time dilation of 4 months to 23 years while the hero starship U.S.S. Omega assembles delegates for a new Babel conference while United Earth has given the Federation a deadline to remove all Federation institutions.
Periodically, over 23 years in normal spacetime, the XO returns to his family's home on Earth. To his dismay, his holographic butler is requisitioned by the state for other tasks, people shun replicators for being Federation technology, and United Earth corrals all remaining Starfleet officers for expulsion. The XO's old Orion friend then dons an armband with the insignia of the Emerald Chain...
You see, I appreciated that the UEDF in the 32nd century included multiple non-humans, presumably descendants of longtime immigrants who were stranded by the Burn, which makes it all the more confusing that The Last Starship
had a Klingon death cult bomb Earth, and yet it hasn't come up at all in Starfleet Academy that anyone on Earth hates Jay-Den Kraag or Lura Thok for being Klingon. One would think humans being xenophobic against Klingons for the actions of a few Klingon terrorists in the past would be an easy story to tell.
Heh, not according to the non-canonical licensed comic series The Last Starship, which as I mentioned in spoiler tags
features a Klingon death cult assembling in the weeks after the Burn and bombing Earth, which immediately prompts United Earth to declare independence. The comic writing even implies all remaining non-humans are being expelled from Earth in spite of the UEDF having non-aliens in DIS season 3.
I thought the UEDF had a point about their militant sternness. DIS de-fanged the Emerald Chain way too early. In fact, I'm surprised the Venari Ral are a different crime syndicate from the Emerald Chain.
Comics are not canon, so who cares what they have to say.
^^This.
As much as a few rare comics like the Lower Decks ones can be good, they're very much not canon for good reasons.
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