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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x03 – “Vitus Reflux”

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A minor quibble, but given the name of the episode is from the name of the fungal species, it bothers me it's not written as Vitus reflux. A proper binomial always has the species name lowercase, and is in italics.
 
To be fair, that's how Surak was portrayed in "The Savage Curtain," only few years after "Amok Time" and "Journey to Babel," so that may have contributed to the idea that we're supposed to admire the Vulcans, instead of regarding them as stuck-up extremists.
I do appreciate that even the Barry Atwater Surak is a recreation of a Vulcan who lived almost 2,000 years earlier, so even the gold standard for Vulcan austerity and calm is a projected replica.
 
I remember it being the first one I enjoyed from beginning to end, and thinking that it was the first time they didn't seem to be looking over their shoulders at TOS for cues. It was a show that didn't fit the original Star Trek's format.

And then had to hear the haters at conventions dismiss it as "a rip-off of 'Piece of the Action'" because, you know, wardrobe. :lol:




Except that, to go all in-universe (which I cordially dislike, at best), we never saw Surak or Kahless or Lincoln - just what Spock and Kirk imagined those people to be like. Spock's got an idealized notion of Surak? No way!

"Where No One Has Gone Before" first made me really involved with TNG, and "The Conspiracy" was the first TNG episode to make me bite my nails ... but the first time I realized I no longer considered TNG a mere filler as long as there were no TOS re-runs must have been in the middle of season 2, "A Matter of Honor" and "The Measure of a Man".
 
There are some very good and perspicacious observations in this Reddit post:






They got anything to say about racist, ageist, sexist and homophobic "fans"? They kind who couldn't find the core ideas of Star Trek with a compass and a map?
 
To be fair, that's how Surak was portrayed in "The Savage Curtain," only few years after "Amok Time" and "Journey to Babel," so that may have contributed to the idea that we're supposed to admire the Vulcans, instead of regarding them as stuck-up extremists.

It's not Spock that convinced everyone the Vulcans were Elrond. It was Spock and his father. Who even at their most feuding were both portrayed as greatly admirable individuals.

So much so that the jerk elves are considered mostly a product of ENTERPRISE and very controversial.

A lot of fans sided with the Vulcans against Archer whenever the latter was supposed to make a big speech about how the Vulcans were holding us back.
 
It's not Spock that convinced everyone the Vulcans were Elrond. It was Spock and his father. Who even at their most feuding were both portrayed as greatly admirable individuals.

True: Mark Lenard did a fantastic job of conveying Sarek's gravitas and dignity, despite all his problematic behavior in "Journey to Babel": shunning his son over his choice of career, hiding his medical condition from his wife, etc.
 
It's not Spock that convinced everyone the Vulcans were Elrond. It was Spock and his father. Who even at their most feuding were both portrayed as greatly admirable individuals.

So much so that the jerk elves are considered mostly a product of ENTERPRISE and very controversial.

A lot of fans sided with the Vulcans against Archer whenever the latter was supposed to make a big speech about how the Vulcans were holding us back.
And, unfortunately, we had a lot more experience with Spock, than Sarek or T'Pau, who present as far more isolationist, and arrogant than Spock would at times. The Vulcans were always aloof and dismissive of humanity and other races, but Spock gets the lion shared of the lift of the positive perception of Vulcans, as well as Tuvok.
 
And, unfortunately, we had a lot more experience with Spock, than Sarek or T'Pau, who present as far more isolationist, and arrogant than Spock would at times. The Vulcans were always aloof and dismissive of humanity and other races, but Spock gets the lion shared of the lift of the positive perception of Vulcans, as well as Tuvok.

Not to mention Saavik.
 
Valeris was a prominent Vulcan pre-2001 and ENT that soured some fans on the species, but she was still engaging and interesting enough to be a good character that could effectively help drive a story.
 
A question. Are Klingons part of the Federation in the 32nd century ? And that is why Jay-Den is at Starfleet Academy.
Klingons were described as members in the 26th century. But they likely left the Federation after the Burn or maybe even earlier there's centuries of stories sat there for the telling
 
On the Zoom call, I think I stated that the freedom of streaming to be R-Rated causes the showrunners to be less creative.

My example being it would have been infinitely funnier if instead of flipping off the cadets, the Romulan had given the sarcastic Vulcan salute or some other alien hand gesture.
 
On the Zoom call, I think I stated that the freedom of streaming to be R-Rated causes the showrunners to be less creative.

My example being it would have been infinitely funnier if instead of flipping off the cadets, the Romulan had given the sarcastic Vulcan salute or some other alien hand gesture.
That would have absolutely been better...

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