Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x03 – “Vitus Reflux”

[1001001]

You will now pay the penance of being forced to watch every upcoming episode of the show and noticing him every single time.

Fair enough.



It was so obvious to me in this episode I recognized his voice right away.

Must have been too stoned the first two episodes…

 

[Arpy]

Star Trek is now everything from dark political drama and intrigue to self-referential, fourth wall-breaking humor and physical slapstick, and it's all canon. And I'm fine with that.

Anything with the words “Star Trek” on it is “canon,” even ENT before it added the Star Trek back to itself.

 

[Michael]

I’m honestly surprised by how much Colbert has been in those first three episodes. I thought it would have been much less frequent when they made the announcement. For “Vitus Reflex” he wasn’t even just there for funny one-liners in the background but somewhat more essential for understanding the Calica games.

 

[Arpy]

Must have been too stoned the first two episodes…

Tracks.

 

[Set Harth]

Got a laugh out of this comment in that thread:

 

[tenmei]

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So the bars on the PE Kit shoulders appear to be the new four department colours, our usual three plus the WC presumably

 

[Farscape One]

It occurs to me... could the War College be what Section 31 ended up becoming over the centuries?

 

[Nerys Myk]

It occurs to me... could the War College be what Section 31 ended up becoming over the centuries?

Are they offering Skullduggery 101?

 

[Greg Cox]

Isn't that the same scene where Kirk is gifted reading glasses. Something that really should not exist in the future if you are to go by the picky standards of some.

Nah, that reading glasses scene was in Wrath of Khan in in 1982. I was referencing a first-season episode where Yeoman Rand reminds Kirk that Doctor McCoy wanted him to eat more vegetables. Can't remember the exact ep offhand, but it must have an early one if Rand was in it.

But, yes, both scenes serve to add a note of humanity to the futuristic setting, helping to bring things down to earth, as it were.

 

[cooleddie74]

"The Corbomite Maneuver."

"What's this...GREEN LEAVES??"

 

[Farscape One]

Nah, that reading glasses scene was in Wrath of Khan in in 1982. I was referencing a first-season episode where Yeoman Rand reminds Kirk that Doctor McCoy wanted him to eat more vegetables. Can't remember the exact ep offhand, but it must have an early one if Rand was in it.

But, yes, both scenes serve to add a note of humanity to the futuristic setting, helping to bring things down to earth, as it were.

It was more salad, I think. And pretty sure it was "THE CORBOMITE MANEUVER".

 

[Greg Cox]

Back twenty years ago, Voyager and Enterprise were indeed hated amongst fandom as much as the Kurtzman shows are now. "Breaking canon" was one of the most common complaints people made about Enterprise back in the day. Even Voyager got some vitriol over ignoring what the other shows established, particularly Dark Frontier and stuff about the Borg.

Indeed. Enterprise was vilified on a near-weekly basis, not just for "violating canon" but also for "character assassinating" the Vulcans.

Never mind that the very first "Vulcan" episode in the entire franchise featured T'Pring plotting to get Kirk or Spock killed, via ritual combat, to escape an arranged marriage. But somehow Enterprise was making the Vulcans look bad?

 

[cooleddie74]

Stonn came off as a bit of a prick, too. Went along with her plans and just stood there waiting for Spock to finish off Kirk so he could claim his prize.

 

[Sim]

I liked the Vulcans in ENT back then, and still like them now.

I really hope SFA will provide more insight into the Ni'Var situation in the 32nd century.

 

[Farscape One]

I actually thought ENT did a great job with the Vulcans.

 

[cooleddie74]

ENT Vulcans were great, even if a lot of them were haughty, smug control freaks. The fact that stubbornly independent and wild, wacky humanity gave Vulcans a veto over the Warp 5 deep space exploration program shows just how much power they had in the decades after First Contact.

Even Earth with its flag-waving, meth lab culture got bossed around by our new pointy-eared benefactors.

 

[TheUsualSuspect]

When you think of it, for a logical species, we see a lot of illogical actions from Vulcans.

In addition to the T'Pring example, we see Sarek refusing to acknowledge Spock as a son for decades just because Spock chose to be a "doctor instead of a lawyer like his dad."

And the whole "you have to marry someone you only met once as a child" thing never made a whole lot of sense either. (Although SNW has done a bit to make that seem more sensible.)

The possibility of a fight to the death still seems pretty illogical, though.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

So the bars on the PE Kit shoulders appear to be the new four department colours, our usual three plus the WC presumably

It could also be undeclared, it matches Caleb's black stripe on his regular uniform

 

[Greg Cox]

When you think of it, for a logical species, we see a lot of illogical actions from Vulcans.

In addition to the T'Pring example, we see Sarek refusing to acknowledge Spock as a son for decades just because Spock chose to be a "doctor instead of a lawyer like his dad."

And the whole "you have to marry someone you only met once as a child" thing never made a whole lot of sense either. (Although SNW has done a bit to make that seem more sensible.)

The possibility of a fight to the death still seems pretty illogical, though.

And don't forget Sarek hiding a serious heart condition from his wife. And Spock admitting that his father was perfectly capable of murdering in cold blood if he had a "logical" reason to do so.

And need I mention Valeris?

Honestly, I'm not sure where fandom got the idea that the Vulcans are supposed to be noble role models. Just because Spock is admirable doesn't mean all Vulcans are -- and indeed Spock's whole character arc over the course of the movies is about him learning to embrace his human side and not be ashamed of his emotions.

 

[cooleddie74]

I mean, the Tal Shiar of Romulus was named after the tal shaya Vulcan method of weaponless execution in the most effective and painless way possible, so it's not as if Vulcans are poster children for being calm, collected hippies.