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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”

Give it up for Robert Picardo folks!

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I think that's part of it for me too. It's not specifically their presence, it's that they're there as a trope. They're basically a tick in a box for the sake of being a tick in the box while wearing the trope hat. Personally, that feels a bit reductionist overall, but that's just me.

I'm not sure what trope you're talking about here. SAM's weight (well, Kerrice Brooks's, since I presume SAM is a massless photonic being) looks completely within the average range.

If anything sets her apart, it's that she looks like a normal person, which is pretty striking when set against a bunch of other young actors who were cast in part due to being model-level hot. In general, Hollywood has a hard time casting normal people in roles, and when they do, it's usually reserved for men and/or older actors.
 
I'm not sure what trope you're talking about here. SAM's weight (well, Kerrice Brooks's, since I presume SAM is a massless photonic being) looks completely within the average range.

If anything sets her apart, it's that she looks like a normal person, which is pretty striking when set against a bunch of other young actors who were cast in part due to being model-level hot. In general, Hollywood has a hard time casting normal people in roles, and when they do, it's usually reserved for men and/or older actors.

I'm speaking of the "trope" mentioned below by TimeIsAPredator about the "jolly fat guy" sidekick/comic relief character.

What I fund funny about attempts to be body positive is those characters still tend to be almost exclusively comic relief. Reinforcing the "jolly fat guy" sidekick to the ripped hunk and his model love interest is not being body positive.
 
I'm not getting "jolly fat guy" from SAM at all. They seem to be going for the aspie-coded socially awkward thing.
I was more referring to LT Rork than SAM. I also said that I could be completely wrong about SAM and she could turn out to be a great character.
 
I'm speaking of the "trope" mentioned below by TimeIsAPredator about the "jolly fat guy" sidekick/comic relief character.
I don't know how you think you are agreeing with me when my post was a rebuttal to your own.
I have no problem with the fitness.levels of any characters on Academy. In fact we haven't seen their level yet. I do have a problem with people assuming fitness based on size. I know plenty of "Tillys" that are fitter than some "Burnhams" I know which annoyed me when they showed Tilly struggling with the exercise levels.
 
Rork was portrayed as a “‘jolly fat guy’ sidekick/comic relief character”? Are there perhaps some deleted scenes I haven’t seen, because I can’t recall anything even remotely like that from those first two episodes.

As people have noted elsewhere, I can see an argument for how Cadet Pickford (who also isn’t “fat” by any means) might fall into that rather unfortunate stereotype (“Look, the fat girl is so hungry, she even eats her combadge!”), but I trust that’s not how they wanted it to come across.
 
I don't know how you think you are agreeing with me when my post was a rebuttal to your own.
I have no problem with the fitness.levels of any characters on Academy. In fact we haven't seen their level yet. I do have a problem with people assuming fitness based on size. I know plenty of "Tillys" that are fitter than some "Burnhams" I know which annoyed me when they showed Tilly struggling with the exercise levels.

Case in point, the comments made in the media about Ilona Maher after the Olympics.
 
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