Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x01 – “Kids These Days”
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I read that in Brad Pitt's voice with a Southern accent.
I got about 20 minutes in before stopping it. I may try watching the rest later, tonight I'm not feeling well, but really nothing was grasping me and I'm not a fan of this time period in the franchise.
I may try watching the rest later but what I saw wasn't grasping me on quite what I was expecting (really, I probably would have taken more of a 90210 tone.)
I may try watching the rest later but what I saw wasn't grasping me on quite what I was expecting (really, I probably would have taken more of a 90210 tone.)
Feel better
I gave it a 7/10, which is to say, not great but quite good.
I think they have a pretty interesting set up (expanded further in the second episode) to get some good Trek storytelling out of the stuff Discovery didn't really deal with, with character representing what Starfleet was, what it has become, and the students representing the promise of what it can be. I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll develop that well, but only time will tell.
I love Holly Hunter as Captain/Chancellor Ake. I got a real kick out of her sitting in her captain's chair in pretty much the same pose I was perched on my couch in. She has a great screen presence.
I think the Athena is beautiful. I love the wings.
I dunno! It's been a while since I was looking forward to new Star Trek (I haven't checked out Strange New Worlds yet). I hope this feeling lasts.
I think they have a pretty interesting set up (expanded further in the second episode) to get some good Trek storytelling out of the stuff Discovery didn't really deal with, with character representing what Starfleet was, what it has become, and the students representing the promise of what it can be. I'm cautiously optimistic that they'll develop that well, but only time will tell.
I love Holly Hunter as Captain/Chancellor Ake. I got a real kick out of her sitting in her captain's chair in pretty much the same pose I was perched on my couch in. She has a great screen presence.
I think the Athena is beautiful. I love the wings.
I dunno! It's been a while since I was looking forward to new Star Trek (I haven't checked out Strange New Worlds yet). I hope this feeling lasts.
glad to hear that.
In my IRL circle , one guy thinks it's pretty decent, and another refuses to give it a chance and says it's the worst thing ever.
I've seen a lot of that 'woke garbage' nonsense on other social media , but the discussion is thankfully more fair here
What's it like having circles?
what if your circle is a bunch of squares?
My husband dislikes it on principle; I'm simply here for the spaceships and whatever action the show can provide of the "pew pew" variety.
While I understand and can sympathize with the 'woke garbage' side of things (the low viewership and numbers for the show, sadly, support this narrative) I'm not really bothered by it. The only thing that does bother me to an extent are the "body positive" characters serving on starships. Lura Thok doesn't bother me at all, it's more SAM and LT Rork. I'm not going to delve into the whys, but that's where I stand on it
What viewership numbers? And how would low viewership numbers support a “woke garbage narrative”? How would anyone be able to deduce anything about why people are not tuning in from the numbers alone? Again, assuming we had any, which we don’t.
You are bothered by “body positive characters”? What an odd thing to be bothered by. Sam is a holographic life form; why would it matter even in the slightest if she conforms to any kind of body standard or not? And why would Rork bother anyone? We know next to nothing about the character and her background. This is a make believe military organization a thousand years into the future, why would they have the same standards as today’s real world military? And just because someone isn’t traditionally slim doesn’t mean they are somehow not fit enough. Have you looked at the diversity that exists in the bodies of real world athletes? But then also, this is a television show. Saying the actresses playing these characters shouldn’t have been hired because their bodies are somehow not slim enough or whatever is the very definition of fatphobic bias.I'm not really bothered by it. The only thing that does bother me to an extent are the "body positive" characters serving on starships. Lura Thok doesn't bother me at all, it's more SAM and LT Rork. I'm not going to delve into the whys, but that's where I stand on it
It’s so weird how this keeps coming up again, yet I don’t remember any similar discussion about characters like Kirk or Scotty being “body positive characters”. I wonder why that is.
Well SAM is a hologram so there should be no issue about fitness levels vs weight. Lt. Rork is some sort of professor or educator so not much issue there.My husband dislikes it on principle; I'm simply here for the spaceships and whatever action the show can provide of the "pew pew" variety.
While I understand and can sympathize with the 'woke garbage' side of things (the low viewership and numbers for the show, sadly, support this narrative) I'm not really bothered by it. The only thing that does bother me to an extent are the "body positive" characters serving on starships. Lura Thok doesn't bother me at all, it's more SAM and LT Rork. I'm not going to delve into the whys, but that's where I stand on it
What I fund funny about attempts to be body positive is those characters still tend to be almost exclusively comic relief. Reinforcing the "jolly fat guy" sidekick to the ripped hunk and his model love interest is not being body positive.
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No one ever mentions Kirk, Scotty, Chief O'Brien or ensign Craig of the Sutherland whenever they have an issue with body types in Starfleet...
It's the 31st century no one cares so long as she willing and capable.
I think that's part of it for me too. It's not specifically their presence, it's that they're there as a trope. They're basically a tick in a box for the sake of being a tick in the box while wearing the trope hat. Personally, that feels a bit reductionist overall, but that's just me.
SAM may very well develop into a full-fledged, well-rounded, thoughtfully developed character and I could be entirely wrong about her character as a whole. LT Rork though definitely comes off as a trope to me.
(These are just my raw thoughts/feelings, take them as one may. Honesty is always the best policy.)
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