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Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy General Discussion Thread

I finished season 1 of my rewatch last night. I forgot how many obscure references to Voyager this series had. Watching Supernova and there was a Counterpoint reference. I forgot all about that and was shocked that we got it (and it made sense) in a kids show.
 
I think I missed that, what reference was that?

Also wanted to say that I kinda liked Admiral Janeway's new crew on the show - that Andorian Commander Tysess and Tellarite Doctor Noum were good characters IMO, especially for side characters. Like well written, well acted, memorable designs (although being CG most of the character designs in Prodigy are pretty memorable I think).
 
I think I missed that, what reference was that?

Also wanted to say that I kinda liked Admiral Janeway's new crew on the show - that Andorian Commander Tysess and Tellarite Doctor Noum were good characters IMO, especially for side characters. Like well written, well acted, memorable designs (although being CG most of the character designs in Prodigy are pretty memorable I think).
I liked the crew as well. That's one of the benefits of being an animated show. You can have more freedom to really have a diverse crew.

I was wondering something last night and if anyone watched this show with their kids more power to the response. Did Prodigy suffer a little from having a confusing storyline? I'm watching the first 4 (3, evidently Into the Breach was one episode on the blu rays, might have been on Netflix too) and I'm a little confused by this storyline, especially what happens to Gwyn. It's Solum of the future, Solum of the present, and them trying to erase Gwyn from history that is kind of making me try to understand what is going on. I'm assuming (I'm rewatching) that Wesley is actually trying to save Gwyn from erasure and was the person who sent the message? I just wonder if the whole arc got too convoluted for it's own good.
 
I was wondering something last night and if anyone watched this show with their kids more power to the response. Did Prodigy suffer a little from having a confusing storyline? I'm watching the first 4 (3, evidently Into the Breach was one episode on the blu rays, might have been on Netflix too) and I'm a little confused by this storyline, especially what happens to Gwyn. It's Solum of the future, Solum of the present, and them trying to erase Gwyn from history that is kind of making me try to understand what is going on. I'm assuming (I'm rewatching) that Wesley is actually trying to save Gwyn from erasure and was the person who sent the message? I just wonder if the whole arc got too convoluted for it's own good.

I was able to follow it pretty well until the very end, where I thought that preventing the Solum civil war should have erased Gwyn from time just as much as altering the Protostar launch. Like by the end it seemed to me they had fixed the initial problem but created a brand new one. Somehow alternate timelines apply to the civil war being changed but not to the Protostar launch? IDK.

Early on, Wesley isn't so much trying to save Gwyn as save all of reality, as he knows the paradox they created will release the Loom, who will eat the entire timeline up and erase everything to fix their mistake, and he wants to avert that, as he considers this timeline his 'home', being the one he came from. I think the other Travellers told him not to bother, but he insisted on helping because of that. Saving Gwyn was just a side-effect bonus as far as he was concerned IIRC.

Too convoluted is pretty much a given for any story involving time travel IMO. It's why it's so relatable when O'Brien says "I hate temporal mechanics" in DS9. That said I think Prodigy did better than most (YMMV), and I enjoyed it, with my only confusion/complaint being Gwyn being fine by the end (and future Asencia still existing even though her past self is now dead set against becoming her).
 
The thing is, changing a potential future shouldn't "erase" anyone who came from it, otherwise the "Yesterday's Enterprise" Tasha Yar and the slightly-near-future O'Brien from "Visionary" would have vanished once their timelines were prevented from coming to pass. It's like getting off a boat before it sinks. Once you're not in it anymore, you're safe from its destruction.
 
Last Flight of the Protostar might be one of the best (Like top 10) treks in the modern era. Everything about both episodes was amazing, especially the animation, specifically of the eels. One thing Animation can do that live action has some limitations, they can give us menacing species like the Eels and the Loom (Even though the Loom do look like the sentinals from the Matrix). Still, episodes like that are why despite this being a kids show, I still think it's the best trek of the modern era.
 
Last Flight of the Protostar might be one of the best (Like top 10) treks in the modern era. Everything about both episodes was amazing, especially the animation, specifically of the eels. One thing Animation can do that live action has some limitations, they can give us menacing species like the Eels and the Loom (Even though the Loom do look like the sentinals from the Matrix). Still, episodes like that are why despite this being a kids show, I still think it's the best trek of the modern era.
I love it for how much more depth it added to Chakotay.
 
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I finished my prodigy rewatch tonight. While the over complimenting became a little annoying (though I know they did it because it’s a kids show) I still really enjoyed revisiting it. That was my second time watching season 2 (the first time was 2 years ago) and I really liked the Loom. Also part two of the finale was really nice, with the introduction of the new Prodigy and Gwyn becoming captain. It is moments like that which is why I hold Prodigy in high esteem. I think I might like Lower Decks slightly better, but I still like Prodigy over the other modern treks.
 
Both Lower Decks and Prodigy involve subgenres I'm uninterested in (adult animated comedy; kids' show) but manage to imbue enough Star Trek into the equation that I enjoy them a good deal nevertheless. Mad props to the creators for getting me onboard. I guess my allergy to those subgenres is a lot like the apparent allergy that mass audiences have to Star Trek as a whole. :lol:

I do, personally, prefer most of the Kurtzman era's live-action Treks over either of these. But I think there are probably fewer blemishes with LD and PRO overall, which—again—props where props are due. They're the least problematic entries.

We're also pretty fortunate, all things considered, that Prodigy's truncated run did not result in any major issues. Rewatching, it feels just about right to end where it did. It's kind of like if Discovery ended after its second season; but better, because it doesn't leave us with a huge question over the next destination. It's not ideal, if only for the belief that future seasons of Prodigy would likely have been good. But it works.
 
We're also pretty fortunate, all things considered, that Prodigy's truncated run did not result in any major issues. Rewatching, it feels just about right to end where it did. It's kind of like if Discovery ended after its second season; but better, because it doesn't leave us with a huge question over the next destination. It's not ideal, if only for the belief that future seasons of Prodigy would likely have been good. But it works.
I was thinking where I would place the finale with the other trek finales, and i feel like it would go right below All Good Things. I really liked where they ended it, with Dal coming full circle realizing where he does fit on the crew and them getting the Prodigy and Hologram Janeway back. It felt like it ended all the arcs that started when the series started and that's basically what I want in a finale. I really wish we got Ma'Jel more though. I really liked her addition in Season 2, and thinking about the recent introduction of a new Vulcan character in SNW (Who I hope to like but right now I'm a little iffy on), it made me miss her a little more. I kind of wish we got a meeting between her and T'lyn, but maybe the timing isn't quite right for that. (I'm still confused about Lower Decks in relation to the Mars attacks, Prodigy ended right when the incident happened).
 
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