Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x03 - "Starstruck"

[cooleddie74]

And it's Star Trek anyways. Species end up in distant parts of space as the story requires, logic notwithstanding. It doesn't have to make sense to us, only in-universe.

 

[Deks]

While that's true, it stretches credibility that Tellarites, Medusans, Lurians, and Brikars all ended up in the same section of space after centuries of galactic travel. Or maybe I'm just thinking too realistically for a kid's show.

Since Medusans are energy based, is it possible they may have travelled the galaxy without ships or hitched a ride with other species... with some ending up in the DQ?

As for Tellarites, Lurians and Brikars... could have been a joint expedition to that part of the galaxy, or they just ended up there separatly at different times.
Could have also been a wormhole, or another phenomena that brought them there.

Problem is, this may have had to have occurried LONG before the UFP existed.
It took over 80 years for a Klingon ship carrying the Kuva'Magh worshippers just to get about 30 000 Ly's away from the Empire.

And while most species did have access to faster Warp drives than Humanity up until the UFP was founded, I doubt that expeditions or separatist groups would have gotten their hands on a Warp 6 or 7 engine... and even at Warp 5, it would take 100 years to travel through 10,000 Ly's.

So, you're looking at 750 years at Warp 5 speeds to get to the DQ (at the coordinates near the Caretaker's array).

I doubt that Tellarites, Lurians and Brikars were Warp capable back then... and even if they were, I doubt they had Warp 5 engines.
The Vulcans seemed to have been one of the very few species in a LONG time that achieved Warp travel before most other AQ species.

 

[DaveyNY]

I enjoyed it.
Gave it a 7.
My only complaint is that it's too short.

 

[Deks]

I know it’s Star Trek so it’s naturally going to be nitpicked to death.

But I feel like nitpicking or overthinking this show is going to be a bit of a reach given that it’s primarily a 23 minute long kids show compared to an hour long adult drama. Or even the more adult Lower Decks.

I actually think that animated series have a better way of covering details like these in a more convincing capacity compared to live action series... so, I could be wrong, but I think Prodigy may give us a reasonable (and convincing) Trek answer as to how these species ended up in the DQ.

 

[Redfern]

Apropos of nothing, but every time I see the letters "DQ", I reflexively think of the fast food/ice cream chain restaurant, "Dairy Queen". Leads to a fleeting bizarre mental image of aliens purchasing soft serve ice cream.

I suspect for some of those in the UK, "DQ" probably conjures thoughts of the "dole queue" (unemployment office for us in the United States).

 

[Deks]

Study Suggests 150 Years May Be the Human Lifespan’s Upper Limit
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smar...may-be-human-lifespans-upper-limit-180977899/
Researchers say beyond that age the body simply can no longer repair itself after normal stresses such as disease

“Death is not the only thing that matters,” Whitson tells Scientific American.
“Other things, like quality of life, start mattering more and more as people experience the loss of them.”

I don't think "Biological Immortality" is really feasible or that simple to figure out, or we'll see more "Biologically Immortal" species outside of the "Q".

But extended functional lifespans where you genetically engineer the human race to live longer and have a more useful and longer functional adult life should be easy enough test and validate over the span of many generations.

Kind of like the "Abh" species from the Crest of the Stars franchise.
Imagine if we use our current 21st century human life span as a measuring stick.
What if we genetically engineer the average human to live longer, more functional lives instead of having frailty for a giant chunk of the upper lifespan.

Humanity's new genetically enhanced decelerated aging factor would kick in once you hit 18 y/o and last till the last minutes of your biological lives. This allows you to live a normal aging cycle until you're 18, then your decelerated aging factors activate and remain with you until the end of your life.

Imagine if the average genetically enhanced human minimum lifespan was ~150 years.
Your physical appearance on the outside ages at ½ the normal 21st century rate once you're past 18 y/o so that by the time you're 150 y/o, you look like you were 84 y/o by 21st century standards.
Your internal organ ages at ⅓ the rate past 18 y/o so that by the time you are ~150 y/o, internally you are similar to a 62 y/o by 21st century standards.

Then you keep refining & testing the improved decelerated internal/external aging factor so that you live a longer and more functional adult life while living longer.

Imagine that after 1000-2000 years of testing your genetic engineering results and validating them, that you're able to increase the average minimum human life-span to 250 years.
Your External appearance could have a decelerated aging factor by 1/10 past 18 y/o which would make you look about ~41.2 y/o by the end of your natural lifespan.
Your Internal organ age would have a decelerated aging factor by 1/11 past 18 y/o which would make you feel about 39.09… y/o.

And your hair, it would stay whatever natural color you were born with and won't go gray until the last 100 days of your natural life span where it'll start to transition from the original color to full on gray hair.

With 50 days left, you'll have full gray hair and your internal clock will slow down and you'll slowly want to sleep longer and longer until you don't wake up and naturally pass away.

This way your enhanced functional adult life can last all the way from when you're 18 y/o till until 100 days from your final biological end of your natural lifespan.

This way, we as humanity can have a wonderful, long, happy, productive, & functional adult lives.

Really depends on the study.
For instance.. :
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-09-theoretically.html

And besides, we're talking about repairing the body on a cellular level with regenerative medicine.
Point being, Humans seem to have the ability to live healthy productive lives past what's considered 'frail'.

I also imagine a lot of the misconceptions about 'diseases' which arise due to 'old age' will also be redefined because society almost to a point fetishizes and glorifies death by thinking its 'inevitable'.
That kind of mindset needs to be abolished...
And besides, there's increasing evidence that due to adaptive algorithms and AI, all collective knowledge of humanity will be COMBINED... so no longer will breakthroughs arise from 'separate fields' but from a collection of multiple fields (which is something we're not actively doing).

 

[Deks]

Still, just because humans can theoretically reach 130 or beyond, doesn't mean we're likely to see it anytime soon.


For a start, the analysis is based on people who have already achieved the relatively rare feat of making it to well over 100.


And even at age 110, your chances of making it to 130 are "about one in a million... not impossible but very unlikely," said Davison.


He thinks we could see people reaching 130 within the century, as more people make it to supercentenarian status, increasing the chances of one becoming that one in a million.


"But in the absence of major medical and social advances, ages much over this are highly unlikely ever to be observed," he added.


For now, the oldest person on record is Frenchwoman Jeanne Calment, who died in 1997 at the confirmed age of 122.

This was also in the article you linked.

Lots of articles speculate "Immortality", but measuring and proving "Immortality" is very hard.

Let's strive for a more achievable goal before you jump straight to "Biological Immortality".

That's why I mentioned biological immortality in the context of using medical science and technology to reverse damage from ageing on a cellular level.

Point being that increasing amount of data points to the premise humans can live exceptionally long and healthy lives WITHOUT necessarily regenerative medical intervention that repairs cellular damage... we just don't see it atm probably due to the socio-economic system we use (which unfortunately puts up unnecessary road blocks such as finances, stress, lack of proper education in the general population and access to basic necessities of life, etc).

But even before this is resolved, it won't stop quantum computing for example, or even classical computers being used for R&D with adaptive algorithms that would be combining all disciplines into one and finding unprecedented solutions (which is slowly starting to be introduced as we speak).

 

[Saul]

I rewatched last weeks pilot (because I was kinda boozed the first time) and then I watched this new episode and I thought both episodes were great. This is a solid Star Trek show. I like the characters, the story, it has a good pace, Janeway is inspiring. I loved the fight within the replicating shuttle, it was imaginative and fun and a cool bit of action I hadn't seen before. The only critic of this show is the theme music which sounds too much like the Kelvin movies. Other than that I am really really impressed with this. It's a kids show but it's not pandering to kids nor does it treat a younger audience as immature or unable to comprehend more complex ideas and themes. Congrats to everyone involved in making this show. You should be very proud and I hope it's a big success.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I've lost track of how this "extending the human lifespan" back-and-forth came up, but it's got diddly to do with this episode. Perhaps it should be taken to Science & Technology.

 

[Deks]

I've lost track of how this "extending the human lifespan" back-and-forth came up, but it's got diddly to do with this episode. Perhaps it should be taken to Science & Technology.

It started with someone mentioning that Kate Mulgrew is set for 2383.
Its a fascinating field though and we're fast approaching the point where this is becoming a real thing.

 

[fireproof78]

I've lost track of how this "extending the human lifespan" back-and-forth came up, but it's got diddly to do with this episode. Perhaps it should be taken to Science & Technology.

Indeed. Perhaps a different forum not burying this thread about a brand new episode in meaningless drivel.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Apropos of nothing, but every time I see the letters "DQ", I reflexively think of the fast food/ice cream chain restaurant, "Dairy Queen".

Me too.

Which is unfortunate because every time I think of DQ, I think of Blizzard. And every time I think of Blizzard, I think of rampant misogyny and sexual harassment.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I've lost track of how this "extending the human lifespan" back-and-forth came up, but it's got diddly to do with this episode. Perhaps it should be taken to Science & Technology.

I'll go delete my posts then.

 

[The Old Mixer]

I'll go delete my posts then.

No need to be dramatic.

 

[Awesome Possum]

I hope someone rescues the little Caitian girl. She's too fluffy for hard labor, save her.

 

[Redfern]

I hope someone rescues the little Caitian girl. She's too fluffy for hard labor, save her.

Sing it, Sista'! She must be protected at all cost!

 

[Brobdingnag]

I hope someone rescues the little Caitian girl. She's too fluffy for hard labor, save her.

I don't know. Sapient furry things just give me the creeps. It reminds me of Beauty and The Beast.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

I wonder how the Caitians must feel about humans having House Cats as pets?

 

[Brobdingnag]

I wonder how the Caitians must feel about humans having House Cats as pets?

For all, we know they have one foot tall, quadrupedal, bare-skinned, hominids as pets...

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

or all, we know they have one foot tall, four-legged, bare-skinned, hominids as pets...

So fur-less monkeys?