The Titan couldn't outmanouever a giant space portal in the vastness of space earlier in the season, yet Diana was pulling handbrake turns in the Enterprise-D.... INDOORS. They've definitely given the G to the wrong ship.
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Seven getting Enterprise was the LAST thing I ever expected
Who knew that the woman who once made a career FIGHTING Enterprise would one day end up COMMANDING her?
Picard and Riker weren't the greatest pilots.
Who knew that the woman who once made a career FIGHTING Enterprise would one day end up COMMANDING her?
Picard and Riker weren't the greatest pilots.
He mentioned on twitter during the season that the transwarp conduit the Jurati Borg were a feint from the Borg Queen here to obscure their true objective, the Transwarp conduit in Jupiter.
I'm not sure if that's a retcon or not. Matalas was brought in to be the Trek Loremaster (of sorts) and help Avika Goldsman get through Season 2's Trek details, before Matalas was given Season 3. If the "Transwarp conduit" that Jurati's Borg are guarding is Matalas applying a name to an amorphous threat Avika Goldsman pulled out of his ass to motivate the Jurati Borg to emerge in Episode 1, which is what I suspect, it would be a retcon. But regardless, that is the official line: Jurati spent season 3 guarding a conduit that the Borg Queen was using as a fake out.
Kind of dumb, but if you want to focus on the core TNG characters you just paid money for, then it makes sense. This season, to great effect, was pretty much 10 bottle shows. A bunch of great Titan sets they redressed, the new Enterprise D set, the Shriek set (which I swear is a redress from Discovery), and the new Borg cube set.. The Titan bridge is from Season 2 (as Stargazer, with changes). This season is a masterwork in amortized costs. The budget went into superb CGI and pay.
I don't agree with the Time Travel Ban after the Temporal Cold War went hot.
But I also have plans for my 26th century StarFleet that involves Michael Burnham bringing back alot of tech / technology / and historical knowledge that would prevent "The Burn".
"The Burn" was the biggest blow to StarFleet ever and the sheer loss of Galactic Life because of that along with the fall of the UFP isn't acceptable.
And Time Travel shouldn't just be "Locked Away" because it's potentially dangerous.
Just like the Genetic Engineering Ban, those two principles need to be unlocked again and tempered with rule making, laws, and balance.
Anybody with common sense and a long term historical view on humanities history would automatically know that humans don't need their aggression enhanced, why on Earth would you think enhancing human aggression was a good idea.
It doesn't need to be reduced either, just look at "Serenity" to see what happens when you tamper with natural behavior.
Just leave it alone, there are other parts of humanity that needs Genetic Engineering, but modifying "Human Aggression" wasn't one of them.
As for Time Travel, I can see ALL sorts of useful uses for Time Travel to save lives and to help society.
It's not just a tool that can be misused, if controlled correctly, it can be of great benefit.
Maybe they can move on from the past now that JLP isn't really active anymore and Beverly is only head of StarFleet Medical.
Hopefully Picard is head of StarFleet Academy.
Agreed. He's the chosen one.. I've said it a lot in these threads. I think the problems of Season 1 and 2 illustrated that with 56 years of history behind it, if you're working with established settings and characters, you need Trek vets who know the lore and understand (as David Blass put it), Star Trek is fundamentally a period piece about the future. You don't put your own spin on stuff... you organically continue what came before. That is almost verbatim what Blass said what he gave marching orders to his production staffers: do Nemesis, evolved, not all-new.
SNW and Discovery can go nuts because that's uncovered or undercovered territory. They get to build their own stories in that sandbox. Like the Gorn retcon in SNW? Cool. Why not! We've seen like 5 minutes of Gorn in 50 years. So go nuts.
But the Berman sandbox has specific rules that must be observed, and that means the Sandbox warden needs to be someone who follows it.
7,000 is the largest number of Starfleet ships ever canonically cited. Anything above that is speculation.
I concur.
Fair enough, but think about it logically, given how many ly across the UFP and how many people participate in the military relative to a nation states population, much less many species combined.
7,000 is a low #.
I think the Borg Transwarp Conduit & it's energy attack was a Plan (Insert Random Number Here).
It wasn't a main plan, but a side plan.
The main plan was the assimilation of the young.
If the Borg Transwarp Conduit attack worked, great.
But it didn't, so onto the next plan
Soji isn't dead, she's off doing Ambassadorial stuff, like representing The Synths and talking to Member Species in the UFP.
This way, they aren't afraid of them.
Elnor, he's probably not dead. But he's also in StarFleet doing his own thing.
Q's death might be temporary, undone, or we haven't seen it. But I'm not worried about Q's life-span.
Agnes' Borg was busy guarding the giant portal. She said that she's busy being a guardian at the gate.
Laris being not present doesn't mean their relationship is over.
Riker's emotion could be just that, it's been smoothed over once again, now that they hashed it out and decided to move away from Nepenthe.
Android Deaths are different than Biological Organic Being Deaths.
If they come back, are they really dead?
Interesting thing to note with possibility of a sequel series. Matalas:
"Alex and I talk all the time. If it’s something that’s going to be done, we want to make sure we don’t rush into it. We want to make sure we do it right. That’s where we’re at with it, I say coyly. At the moment, there’s nothing developed on it. But we talk all the time."
From his interview with Variety Magazine.
"Alex and I talk all the time. If it’s something that’s going to be done, we want to make sure we don’t rush into it. We want to make sure we do it right. That’s where we’re at with it, I say coyly. At the moment, there’s nothing developed on it. But we talk all the time."
From his interview with Variety Magazine.
And from a DoG interview, re Shaw:
“I know quite a few things,” Matalas says. “I’ve known exactly how Todd [Stashwick] is involved or would be involved if we should ever be so lucky to come back. Todd knows. and we’ve always known. And Jeri [Ryan] knows and it’s the coolest thing ever.”
Yes please!
This crazy idea I came up with a few years back, pre-Picard, which would be incompatible (now) with Prodigy and Picard, was basically a 13 episode anthology series that was inspired by Seven Soldiers of Victory... building a team that never actually all meets to face a threat that doesn't exist in a single time and place. Below's an outline... the full doc is quite extensive. I'm proud of it, but it doesn't work with what has aired since I wrote it.
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Episodes 1-3, "Legacy" were about Lieutenant Molly O'Brien in 2399 to team with Julian Bashir (Section 31 leader) to find out why the remnant of the Obisdian order blew up a third of DS9 and killed Chief O'Brien and Keiko. Turns out, O'Brein was developing a long range transported technology based on the Iconians, and the Obsidian Order remnant wanted to use it to transport quantum torpedo's to the worlds of the Federation Alliance to win the war. It would deal with Molly's feelings about growing up exposed to constant danger and being moved around the galaxy. She would resent her parents but her experience would make her understand them. Bashir would be her guide in that. As head of Section 31, Bashir had spent most of the 2380s and 2390s trying to stop the Obsidian Order remnant.
Episodes 4-6, "Lost" is about Chakotay and Torres, stuck 200,000 BC. They tried to implement Quantum Slipstream technology as a proof of concept on the Delta Flyer, and ended up stranding themselves in the distant past. The arrive as a grand alliance of races were overthrowing their oppressors, the Iconians. The Iconians would try and win the war using their portal technology, but doing so unintentionally caused a False Vacuum Catastrophe. Entire systems got pushed into subspace. The Iconians manage to stop the Catastrophe over 20 years and destroy themselves. Torres and Chakotay realize they needed to plant the solution the Iconians came up with across the galaxy so anyone 200,000 years hence trying to use the Iconian portal technology would have a solution to stopping the false vacuum its use would unleash. Chakotay would get to be an archeologist, but in reverse.
Episodes 7-9, "Time" was about Jonathan Archer, who vanished (not died) the day after the NCC-1701 launched in 2245. he is rejuvenated by Daniels who (as we'd find out) sets Archer out to recover the pieces that Torres and Chakotay left, scattered across time. Archer would travel to 4 billion BC< 2273, 2295, 2327, 2364, 2399 and 3064. His mission gets him to see the full flowering of the Federation he helped build.
Episodes 10-12, "Destroyer" taking place in 2437, involved General Worf, the greatest hero in the Klingon Empire, who like Kor, outlived everyone and would could not die in battle. The Klingon Empire is at it's greatest extent ever, as partners of the Federation. The Federation is the shield, the Klingons the sword. But Worf has been denied his glorious death. Turns out, Qo'onos is destroyed when a great output of energy begins there and destroys the system, expanding outward unstoppably at FTL speeds. The Vacuum Catastrophe has begun. The broken empires is preyed upon by its enemies and Worf goes on a quest that leads him to to the long abandoned Terok Nor as the false vacuum consumes everything
Episode 13, "Destiny" tied it all together. Taking place in 200,000 BC, 2399, 3064, 2437, and 3060.
Chakotay and Torres in 200,000 BC put the anti-vacuum technology in a vault and seed its location across the galaxy. They die as radiation from the galactic-scale solution (that wiped out all "ancient" life of 200,000BC causes them to succumb.).
In 2399, Molly and Bashir find and stop the Obsidian Order remnant developing the Iconian portal tech Miles began working on (and was nearly done with). In the process, Molly discovers from her father's nots and Obsidian order research that while the portal would send the quantum torpedoes, the untindened False Vacuum side effect would occur. Archer would project himself from the future (hint hint) and lead Molly and Bashir to Chakotay and Torres' vault location (which he discovered in his 3 episode arc). They get the device. The entire Obsidian order is destroyed except for one, at the cost of Bashir's life. Bashir avenges miles and saves Molly though. Molly, realizing that knowledge of the portal technology escaped, resolves to wait on Terok Nor for the inevitable false vacuum, protecting the Iconian device in secret.
In 2437, General Worf, the las survivor of his crew arrives to find Molly, age 69, waiting for him since 2399. Archer kept her company through temporal project for 38 years. She tells Worf about the Obsidian Order plot and how, all these years later, they were the ones who destroyed Qo'nos and that she has the device to stop the false vacuum consuming everything before it gets too big. But the device must be activated from right next to the edge of it. Worf accepts his final mission to take the device from the girl he brought into this world in 'Disaster' who is now an old woman. Worf has his glorious death and the galaxy is saved.
In 3060, Archer sees that in the mid 25th century, with Qo'onos gone, the Klingon Empire remnant finally joins the Federation. He realizes that contrary to what Daniels instructed, he has become an active participant in his own timeline. Because he is Future Guy. His begins to do the Future-guy stuff we saw (and then some) and has a front row seat to eternity now, making sure the Federation achieves its destiny.
We know from DS9's "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" that the Klingons lost so many ships in the Dominion War that they're essentially a second-rate power now. That's also true of the Romulans post-Supernova. Sure, there are other fleets, but no other fleet is as powerful as the Federation Starfleet.
If every ship in the Federation Starfleet is under Borg control? Yeah, sorry, I don't think the rest of the Federation is likely to survive.
No, a real-life example would be the capture and co-option of the entire U.S. Armed Forces and the destruction of Washington, D.C.
I interpreted her comment to include all the people on other Federation worlds that would die if Earth fell.
Again, the scenario being faced was the simultaneous decapitation of the entire Federation government and co-option of every ship in the Federation Starfleet -- the only post-Romulan Supernova hyperpower. That's a fleet capable of defeating every other power in local space.
The gist was that Vadic and her faction defied the Great Link and went rogue. They are not agents of the Dominion government.
Yeah, and we should have gotten a scene of Geordi being reunited with his daughters. But beyond that, we didn't need to see anything. This is Star Trek: Picard, not Star Trek: Geordi's Daughters.
That happens a year later, and also Jack was no more responsible for the actions of Vox than Jean-Luc was for the actions of Locutus.
I mean, that's just inherent to a lot of storytelling -- you can't really go into the kind of trauma the story would realistically cause all of the tertiary characters. It's not so much that they want you to "forget" so as to get a swift ending, as that the trauma of those characters is part of a different story. Same way you don't incorporate Ben Sisko's pain over Jennifer's death or Liam Shaw's pain over his crewmates' deaths into the end of "The Best of Both Worlds." "The Best of Both Worlds" is not about Ben Sisko or Liam Shaw, and trying to encompass all of the trauma these other characters are going to distort the narrative into something too unweildy to function as a story.
I'm not convinced he is. I think it's pretty obvious that when he and Troi opened the Red Door in his mind, he fell under a mind-altering influence that inhibited his normal judgment. Star Trek has been very consistent in not regarding people as morally culpable for actions taken under the influence of mind control.
But even then, the post of mine you're quoting here is in response to the idea that he was guilty of treason. Even if we suppose that he was morally culpable for getting captured and assimilated, that's a far, far cry from being guilty of treason.
I'm not convinced that that's true at all. He literally went from being so terrified of opening the Red Door in his mind that he was paralyzed and crying to ranting about purpose and perfection. I think opening the door rather obviously altered the functioning of his brain and placed him under Borg influence.
Even if we ignore the question of Borg mind control, that's still not treason.
There's no reason to think he's not. We didn't get a comprehensive overview of his emotional state post-rescue.
Elnor wasn't on Excelsior (Terry tweeted as much the other day.)
While I don't have a Story Line, I do have a Technical Manual / Rule Book / Writers Guide for how the 26th century StarFleet/UFP will work and all the technological/historical updates to it.
It's literally over 730+ pages long with countless notes all over the place.
Good! That means he might be able to join us on the Enterprise-G as newly minted Security Officer.
Given his mastery with a Sword, I wouldn't mind him being part of the Security Team =D.
I do wonder if Elnor was in the Sol system on Frontier Day. If he wasn't, he might not have been subjected to the Borg control signal.
JL was a middle-aged man. Jack is 23.
He doesn't have JL's decades of life experience.
Who knows?
Well, I wouldn't equate them to that, since the Taliban is a large, organized government that has itself twice seized state power, and Vadic's group are clearly not that. I think a better comparison would be to the Troubles-era IRA, since Vadic's Changelings are nationalists who have splintered off from their original government because they refuse to accept the peace settlement reached with their home nation's foreign enemies.
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