Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x10 - "The Last Generation"

[Scionz]

No it didn't.

It entirely changed where Seven, Raffi and Picard were in their lives. Far more than what would happen in a year. It wrote out Laris in the first episode... I guess Picard left her hanging one year later and stuck with Beverly and his son? It dismissed the Jurati Borg a "weird shit", retconned (via twitter) that Transwarp conduit to be the Delta Quadrant Borg, and brought back the real Borg.

It brought revamped uniforms (yes they are different than S2), revamped sets, and revamped ships. All for a season that takes place, ostensible, about a year later.

They kept the few things that worked and tossed everything else to tell a TNG 8 Season 8 serialized story.

 

[Tuskin38]

and Picard were in their lives.

What, we see Picard picking up right where Season 2 ended.

 

[NCC-73515]

Was President Chekov's attribution of Spock's line "There are always possibilities" to his father a reference to the fan film Star Trek: Of Gods and Men in which Admiral Pavel Chekov said the line while referencing Spock as its source.

I think Kirk said it in TOS, but it might've been 'always options'

For decades they've tried to show starships a large capital ships, and Matalas turns it into a fighter. Silly is an understatement.

At least it didn't spin like the New Voyages Enterprise

I’ve never been a fan of “the fat one” but seeing her weaving around like the Millennium Falcon inside the 2nd Death Star…….was kinda cool and she looked way better being so agile. Silly but cool.

With Data doing it, it's possible
Only Mr. "hands so fast you can't see them" is able to reallocate thruster power so quickly all over the ship
And they only needed life support for the bridge, and no holodecks etc

 

[KennyB]

Objectively, Matalas' choices are dramatically bone headed. There's no defending them. He has become the lowest common denominator: the fan wank King. He's the basement geek constantly hitting the reset button on his computer, but in this case its on his own show!

I will stand by the idea someone using the word "clever" to describe this does not have high standards. Now if they had said: "it makes no sense but I like it anyway", I'd have said fine and dandy Let's watch Baywatch together.

Warning given for trolling. I warned you that it’s fine to have an opinion. You’re entitled but you will not insult people who like something just for liking it. Comments to PM or just change the behavior.

 

[Markonian]

Seven’s phrase should be,
“Delta V.”

 

[Scionz]

What, we see Picard picking up right where Season 2 ended.

Out of Starfleet again, giving away all his belongings and leaving Earth? Really the only thing carried forward is that he "allowed himself to be loved" per Q in his fling with Laris, which was promptly jettisoned as she left Earth, and he chased Beverly and found his son.

So no. That is not where Season 2 ended. It is a rejection of season. In my "how I thought this season would end" idea, I actually paid for credence to Season 2 than Matalas and co actually did. I imagined Jack becoming the new leader of the Borg (well sort of, he would turn the Borg into something else, similar to what happened in the Star Trek Destiny book series), and go to the Delta Quadrant to save other Borg on the frontier. I figured Beverly would go with him as to not lose him like she lost Wesely (foreshadowed in Episode 9). I figured the series would end on a melancholy note with the crew split up again after briefly reuiniting for one last mission and Picard would go and meet Laris, and again, allow himself to be loved. It would move the character past the TNG cast.

I like the real ending better. It's much more fitting. My imagined ending makes more sense with keeping the show consistent with Picard Season 1 and 2 (I also wanted Data to visit Copellius and meet Soji and see Lal's painting, bringing the series full circle). The fact that none of these points got touched on and basically everything from Season 1 and 2 that wasn't relevant to bringing back the Borg and Data was jettisoned, really drives home how much of an unfortunate name "Picard Season 3" is for this show.

It's TNG Season 8 or "Star Trek: The Last Generation". "Picard" is an artifact of marketing at this point.

 

[Scionz]

Seven’s phrase should be,
“Delta V.”

I was frantically trying to think of what Janeway's saying was. I couldn't remember it (if she had one). I was hoping she would say that and I just had forgotten.

I think it should be "Comply." in her 2370s, retro stern Seven tone. Let out her inner Borg.

 

[Sci]

This continuing Season 1 and 2's themes just because it's still named Picard would have been a complete waste when the goal from the outset was to make this the TNG ending that we never got. Why? Because Picard Season 1 and 2 didn't mean anything.

PIC S1, with its deep concern for how to find meaning, purpose, and love in the face of grief and the inevitability of death, literally helped me cope with my grandmother's death. It meant the world to me.

 

[gweeps]

Then don't worry, Q is still dead/will die.

The one we saw in the credits scene is just him from before he died, He says just as much to Jack.

I thought about this because he looked the same as after he "caught up" to Picard's age. Makes sense that he'd head to the future while he still had the chance.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Worf is officially "too old for this shit".

Data piloting the E-D like that reminded me a great deal of the Millenium Falcon in the Death Star 2.

Interesting how the Borg cub was outside the atmosphere when it went up. Much better visual that way I guess.

 

[Falco16]

Gonna give it an 8. It felt like a good sendoff, but they definitely were playing it safe. And the new ship...well....I dunno. Overall a fun episode, but was a bit underwhelmed.

 

[Eric Bean]

Sweet Lord some of you need to take your meds. I laughed, cried and got goosebumps. The Enterprise-G is a damn fine ship with a damn fine crew. Can't we be glad we just have a new era of trek to enjoy?

I give it a 9.5

 

[Phily B]

I'm gonna give is a 9. I really liked all of the stuff witht he OG crew, but I felt that renaming the Titan to Enterprise-G and Captain Seven was way too much.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

So what is the first line to Captain Seven's legacy?



"Come fly!"




"Kal-toh!"



"Naomi Wildman!"



"Go Fast!"



"Are We There Yet?"

 

[Tuskin38]

At least it didn't spin like the New Voyages Enterprise

Dexler has said he regretted doing that heh

 

[Scionz]

PIC S1, with its deep concern for how to find meaning, purpose, and love in the face of grief and the inevitability of death, literally helped me cope with my grandmother's death. It meant the world to me.

I respect you find such meaning in Season 1. We can all name fiction that has such resonance and helps get us through difficult times.

Objectively however, Picard Season 3 is simply not in a storytelling or thematic continuation (except in the most general sense) from Season 1 and 2. That was not the story the producers, in my eyes rightfully, intended to tell from the outset. Not a criticism of how important you hold Season 1, but Season 3 isn't about the "PIcard" show anymore. It's about TNG, Voyager and DS9 collectively.

This is why I keep saying I really hope they either put a feature length cut of the last two episodes out as a fifth TNG movie on Paramount+, or retroactively reliable Season 3 as "Star Trek: The Last Generation" miniseries down the line. Keeping the Picard name confuses things.

This happened before, just not with Trek. Stargate SG-1 wanted to rename itself to 'Stargate Command" with Season 8 since Season 7 wrapped up all the major stories (mostly) and Season 8 was going to be a new situation (of sorts) for the main cast. THey were going to call it "Stargate Command", but there were issues with actors guilds, pay and marketing that prevented it.

 

[Scionz]

So what is the first line to Captain Seven's legacy?

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"Come fly!"


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"Kal-toh!"

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"Naomi Wildman!"

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"Go Fast!"

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"Are We There Yet?"

"COMPLY".

 

[StewMc]

I was frantically trying to think of what Janeway's saying was. I couldn't remember it (if she had one). I was hoping she would say that and I just had forgotten.

I think it should be "Comply." in her 2370s, retro stern Seven tone. Let out her inner Borg.

Janeway's was "Do it".

I could imagine Seven's being "Proceed", though its not particularly interesting. "Comply" is good though.

 

[HotRod]

I really don't know what to say just yet. There were things I liked. Things I really disliked. A few real head scratchers that I'm still iffy on.

I dunno... might have to let the dust settle a bit before I can really give my opinions.

 

[Scionz]

Janeway's was "Do it".

I could imagine Seven's being "Proceed", though its not particularly interesting. "Comply" is good though.

Oh it is "Do it". Isn't it. Man how did I not know that. That's incredibly disappointing.

I suppose it's more universal than "Let's Fly".