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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"

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It's perhaps worth noting that sometimes the plot is the least important part of a movie or tv series. It's just the armature on which you hang all the really cool stuff: the style, the mood, the atmosphere, the acting, the characters, the dialogue, and, in this case, heaping helpings of nostalgia.

And, honestly, the minute they announced (with much fanfare) the cast of Season 3, it was obvious that this was going to be the Big TNG Reunion season. That's what they promised, that's what I expected, and that's what we got -- in spades.

Should every new Trek show dial up the nostalgia-meter to eleven? Of course not. But for TNG's grand finale? Go for it.

It's kinda of liking showing up for your parents' 50th anniversary party. You expect that that sentiment and nostalgia are going to carry the day.
Shame I can't like this post a few hundred times. Very, very well said. :mallory:
 
It's perhaps worth noting that sometimes the plot is the least important part of a movie or tv series. It's just the armature on which you hang all the really cool stuff: the style, the mood, the atmosphere, the acting, the characters, the dialogue, and, in this case, heaping helpings of nostalgia.

And, honestly, the minute they announced (with much fanfare) the cast of Season 3, it was obvious that this was going to be the Big TNG Reunion season. That's what they promised, that's what I expected, and that's what we got -- in spades.

Should every new Trek show dial up the nostalgia-meter to eleven? Of course not. But for TNG's grand finale? Go for it.

It's kinda of liking showing up for your parents' 50th anniversary party. You expect that that sentiment and nostalgia are going to carry the day.
I agree with this so much I wish it could be pinned to the thread.

What I'm going to remember about this season isn't that it's the Borg or the plot (though it's all been enjoyable). It's the time Riker and Picard got in a massive argument. It's that Gates McFadden and Patrick Stewart had their best scenes ever together (and so many of them!). It's that LaForge and Data finally got the scenes that were 20 years in the making together.
 
Good point. Not sure this is really a technology thing. We didn't have personal computers or mobile phones when I was growing up, but I spent most of my teen years with my nose in a book. My friends from those days are often amazed at just how little I remember of our old high school. I pretty much tuned it out.
Well...I had access to a mainframe (via Teletype and 110 Baud acoustic modem) in 1975 (age 12) in Jr. High; and after school (when a Teacher was willing to stay) or on one Saturday a month (yes, we had a Teacher that volunteered to come in so we could get access) - we played a Star Trek simulation on an HP 2000 mainframe whenever we could. I also started writing games in Basic and 'enhanced ' the Star Trek simulation we were playing with some new features.

In 1979, I had a TRS-80 on which I programmed a game (with ASCII 'graphics') where you flew an X-Wing - Killed a TIE Fighter, and then went maneuvering down the trench of the Death Star with a TIE Fighter on your tail (a simple two TRS-80 dot TIE fighter that moved in your small 'rear scanner; and you wanted to keep it from getting in the center while not crashing into the ASCII walls so he couldn't kill you, and you got one shot to either get your Proton Torpedo down the vent, or lose...(After the shot the view turned to you flying toward the Moon the Rebel Base was on and you either saw the Death Star 'explode in your rear scanner, or you saw a bean come from the top of your screen, and hit and explode the 'Moon'.)

Spent a semester writing that game for the one Computer class my High School offered before I went off to CSUN to get a CS degree in programming. the teacher let me do that because 4 years earlier, I and 3 other Jr. High school students from the Jr. High school I talked about help conduct a seminar to assist and train 5 High School teachers how to use a acoustic modem and connect to the mainframe the District had some access to at the time; and teach them enough BASIC that they could use a local lesson plan that had been developed to teach a simple class. The teacher in charge of the Class I took was one of those we 'trained' so he was aware I knew more than he did and he said I could either take the class as it was (and get an easy A); or try and write something I wanted to on the TRS-80 Model III they also now had - and if it was complex enough and I still was unable to completely finish, unless it looked REALLY simple or I was 'goofing off' and not really trying - he'd still give me an A because he knew I knew the material they were going to cover.

So I wrote the game over the semester; gave him a printout of the code - and he played it a few times; and gave me the A.

The comment on the BASIC code printout (and I couldn't really put any annotations or remarks in the code because I had issues getting everything I wanted to do into the game with the memory limitations and I even had to scale back some of the ASCII animation I'd worked out to get the whole thing to fit) was:

"I played it, and it works like you said it would, but your coding is too advanced and involved for me to understand it; but it works. - A."

So yeah, from 12 years old on, I've been using and had access to some form of real world Computer - and it's a field I still make a living from today, at 60.:crazy:;)
 
Meanwhile, the only computer instruction I got in high school was a one-week unit in which we cut out punchcards. And, believe or not, I got through all of college without ever touching a computer, except for one exercise in a chemistry class. Heck, when I first started working in book publishing, we're were still only using typewriters in the editorial department -- and that was roughly 1987.

The same year TNG debuted, just to bring us back OT. :)
 
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old , not networked and the last hope for humanity .. ;)

Is RDM involved ?
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The mission of the NX-01 Enterprise did not lead to the birth of Starfleet.

Starfleet already existed for 20 years when the NX-01 Enterprise launched.
The NX-01 Enterprise was a Starfleet ship.

The mission of the NX-01 Enterprise lead to the birth of the Federation.

The Star Trek Picard season 3 writers continue the proud tradition of NuTrek writers not knowing the difference between "Starfleet" and the "Federation".

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"Federation Headquarters" LOL.
 
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The mission of the NX-01 Enterprise did not lead to the birth of Starfleet.

Starfleet already existed for 20 years when the NX-01 Enterprise launched.
The NX-01 Enterprise was a Starfleet ship.

The mission of the NX-01 Enterprise lead to the birth of the Federation.

The Star Trek Picard season 3 writers continue the proud tradition of NuTrek writers not knowing the difference between "Starfleet" and the "Federation".

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"Federation Headquarters" LOL.
Yawn - It lead to the birth of the Federation Starfleet <--- Which is what she was referring to. Earth Starfleet was founded in the 2130s; but I doubt it continued in that form past 2161 <--- The founding of the United Federation of Planets.
 
It's that Gates McFadden and Patrick Stewart had their best scenes ever together (and so many of them!).
Yes, we got good Gates scenes but after what they did to the Crusher character I basically consider it a completely different character who happens to have the same name and face as TNG Crusher. TNG Crusher never would've hid Jack like this one did.

Did Mark Hamill have good scenes in the Last Jedi? He sure did. Was the Luke Skywalker in it who refused to help fight the First Order and pulled a weapon on his sleeping nephew anything at all like the character everyone loved from the original films? No he wasn't.

Yes, we have character development but it's not the same as distorting them beyond recognition. Legends did a better job of developing Luke's character, including his bitterness after the Yuuzhan Vong war, than the new movies did.
 
The birth of the Federation Starfleet. The Federation's Starfleet doesn't count the ships of Earth's Starfleet as being theirs.

That's the reason the Enterpirse D's dedication plaque claims her as the "fifth starship to bear the name." The Federation Starfleet doesn't count the NX-01 Enterprise as being one of theirs.
 
The birth of the Federation Starfleet. The Federation's Starfleet doesn't count the ships of Earth's Starfleet as being theirs.

That's the reason the Enterpirse D's dedication plaque claims her as the "fifth starship to bear the name." The Federation Starfleet doesn't count the NX-01 Enterprise as being one of theirs.

Earth's fleet was mothballed because Warp 5 engines are dumb.

I think the mothball fleet was the fleet that guarded Earth.

Shitty engines, but great weapons.

Of course by the Motion Picture, Enterprise was the only ship in the fleet that could intercept with V'Ger before it got to Earth.

Where was the mothball fleet?
 
but I doubt it continued in that form past 2161

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The Starfleet of the Federation is a continuation of the Starfleet of United Earth.
Starfleet ships in the TOS era, including Kirk's Enterprise during its five-year mission, still worked for the United Earth Space Probe Agency.
 
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The Starfleet of the Federation is a continuation of the Starfleet of United Earth.
Starfleet ships in the TOS era, including Kirk's Enterprise during its five-year mission, still worked for the United Earth Space Probe Agency.
OR the United Earth Space Probe Agency was folded under/into the NEW Federation Starfleet. :)
 
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