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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x09 - "Võx"

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My hope is that they've taken note of his popularity over this season and will do something about it. If we don't see his body or get him mentioned too much in the last ep it wouldn't be hard to write a reason for him to survive. Seven and Raffi could get him to sickbay or in stasis maybe.

Someone posted a Collider interview with Matalas with some interesting statements on that front: Shaw is dead, but Stashwick is in every episode of the season, and would still fit in with any potential spinoffs. So something seems up.
 
There are actually THREE Borg factions now.
  1. Old School Borg with the Queen
  2. Juratti/Queen Borg who are (presumably) Federation members guarding that weird wormhole
  3. The XB-Borg with the Cube that crashed on the planet with the Soong androids and flower starships
The last one doesn't count. They are very much not Borg anymore, that's why they're called ex-Bs.
 
It's apparently such an all consuming job that they can't spare any resources to help when the fate of the galaxy is at stake. How friendly are they argain?

True. Although, there is a part of me that wonders if the Mirror-Borg will show up in the finale. It would be a nice way to tie up the entire series. The Mirror-Borg could "convert" the OG Borg to their ways closing the evolution of the Borg. Picard and co. actions in S2 actually paid off by creating the instrument of Starfleet's salvation and permanently ending the Borg threat.
 
It's tough. I'll ask my junior high aged son about time with his friends at school and all they do is play games on separate laptops. When I asked about what they talked about at lunch or before school it's always they didn't talk they were just on their laptops their entire time. So yea kids just aren't developing the same social skills. He says he tries to make conversation with people but everyone is just on their computers.
What a goddamn tragedy. What a lost generation.
 
What a goddamn tragedy. What a lost generation.
As one of those kids who was always on the computer, don't judge them too harshly. We only did that when the cool people in school made it clear we wouldn't be allowed to hang out with them, we shouldn't be near them, etc.

Our polarized and cruel society is to blame, not the tech. If society in general were kinder and more understanding of people with disabilities, shortcomings that don't cross any legal lines, etc. people will leave their screens and interact. I'd be the first to do so.

Even in adulthood, if you're trying to reach out socially and all you hear is, "I don't know you", what options do we have? Of course we'll stick to the computer games, we don't want restraining orders.
 
Deleted scene from Picard Season 3 --

Picard: Agnes, it's Jean-Luc Picard! My son is a Borg bioweapon that's going to assimilate all of Starfleet in a few hours at Frontier Day festivities! Let's meet so you can cure him or at least integrate his Borg DNA into your friendly faction instead!

Agnes: Mister, we're guarding a transwarp conduit. Curing your son is irrelevant.

Jean-Luc: The lives of thousands of Federation citizens are at stake so that can wait ok? I'm going to send coordinates we can meet to hand over Jack and--

Computer: The recipient has ended this call.

Picard: :mad:
:lol: I can just hear the conversation.
 
There are actually THREE Borg factions now.
  1. Old School Borg with the Queen
  2. Juratti/Queen Borg who are (presumably) Federation members guarding that weird wormhole
  3. The XB-Borg with the Cube that crashed on the planet with the Soong androids and flower starships
There's also probably mini collectives like that one from Season 3 of Voyager.
 
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Season 3 is Star Trek in bullet points.
 
The Enterprise D bridge scene was the greatest thing I have ever watched in my entire life. I am just sad that there is only one episode left.

Maybe the Borg will assimilate Captain Shaw and revive him somehow.

Shelby was probably my favourite TNG guest star and it was good to see her again.

It had to be the Borg as the enemy. This is the classic TNG villain.

I rated this episode a 9. I loved it.
 
The Queen's Borg cube seemed different to the "Artifact" cube, still in ruins and understaffed - I have a feeling there's no real Collective anymore and the Borg has split up into different "Collectives" (likely helped along by the other Queen from S2). Makes the S3 Queen seem more of a petty, bitter loner that wants to tear down the Federation.

It's possible.
The Collective took a direct blow when the Queen was infected by the future Admiral Janeway (go Kathryn!)... so Borgati would have had to operate in relative secrecy for about 357 odd years... which would have been easy since she would have had transtemporal awareness and would have been able to avoid the Borg with high degree of success and then do a major 'clean up' operation after Voyager took down the Collective.

The 'real' Queen was initially destroyed... but she was killed before and came back... so her consciousness is likely stored remotely... aka it probably goes into a nearby active Borg technology or unicomplex since the IS the Collective and Borg signals permeate subpspace in real time.

With the destruction of the Unicomplex in 'Endgame' though, she'd have limited options, but some parts of the collective may have survived independently in odd ships like the Sphere that was chasing VOY back to the AQ in the TW conduit, so her consciousness probably went into some last remaining cubes.

So, those 'lucky' vessels and infrastructures which survived probably hung on for dear life trying to regain what was previously lost (but there would have still been a major power vacuum leftover and a significant portion of the Borg would have likely been disconnected from the hive mind, and possibly lost the ability to assimilate via nanoprobes as Prodigy established).

Borgati would have been on the move and acquired previous drones into her own more willing collective leaving the 'real' Borg with proverbial scraps by the time Picard series began (so, Borgati would have had about 20 odd years to do her work).

The Cube in the nebula we saw in episode 9 of Pic S3 seemed like a makeshift movable mini unicomplex that can house the Queen.
 
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You know what? The plot is over-cooked and I'm not sure it totally makes sense. I'm disappointed that The Borg are back. I'm pissed that they killed off the best new character with the most long-term potential since Lorca.

Still gets a 9/10, despite these things...because it's fucking WILDLY ENTERTAINING. And, call me crazy, but I watch Star Trek primarily to be entertained.

Love it...can't wait to see how the final episode turns out.
 
As one of those kids who was always on the computer, don't judge them too harshly. We only did that when the cool people in school made it clear we wouldn't be allowed to hang out with them, we shouldn't be near them, etc.

Our polarized and cruel society is to blame, not the tech. If society in general were kinder and more understanding of people with disabilities, shortcomings that don't cross any legal lines, etc. people will leave their screens and interact. I'd be the first to do so.

Even in adulthood, if you're trying to reach out socially and all you hear is, "I don't know you", what options do we have? Of course we'll stick to the computer games, we don't want restraining orders.


Good point. Not sure this is really a technology thing. We didn't have personal computers or mobile phones when I was growing up, but I spent most of my teen years with my nose in a book. My friends from those days are often amazed at just how little I remember of our old high school. I pretty much tuned it out.
 
With the Enterprise D coming back into action (and apparently "fully functional"), will/could it be recommissioned back into the fleet? According the TNG Technical manual, the Galaxy class ships are designed for a 100 year life span. Makes sense with all of resources going into building a starship.

PS - Are there any good 4K pictures floating around yet?
 
It's tough. I'll ask my junior high aged son about time with his friends at school and all they do is play games on separate laptops. When I asked about what they talked about at lunch or before school it's always they didn't talk they were just on their laptops their entire time. So yea kids just aren't developing the same social skills. He says he tries to make conversation with people but everyone is just on their computers.

I in no way want to derail the thread...but this IS very scary as a parent of two pre-teen boys (9 and 11). I'm VERY fortunate that they have multiple interests (heavy into sports with baseball, basketball, football... martial arts, chess club, video editing, etc) and that they have some very good friends they've met through those activities who they actually do real social things with quite frequently.

Sometimes I think getting them into varied activities is the only way to combat that stagnation.

Or...maybe we're just lucky right now.
 
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