It's not legible on screen, but the Enterprise-D display made for Season 2 said it was recovered and put into the fleet museum.
Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x05 - "Imposters"
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I’m sure changelings that were good at infiltration were able to fool a tricorder io to a point. The new ones can fool a thorough scan and need to be analysed much more closely to be discovered.
speaking of lighting: was this episode brighter? As opposed to the previous episodes (and especially the last one) I don’t remember finding the darkness annoying.
How about they are less evolved?
Cousins who developmentally split off from the main bunch half a million years ago?
If they were trying to get some where sublight, or went through a wormhole, or got stuck in a singularity, or just went into stasis to weather some apocalypse, these could be the Changelings from before they founded the Dominion?
Evolution does not occur quickly.
Founders can't evolve, because they do not lose bad traits each generation, and it can be argued that they do not have generations.
Cousins who developmentally split off from the main bunch half a million years ago?
If they were trying to get some where sublight, or went through a wormhole, or got stuck in a singularity, or just went into stasis to weather some apocalypse, these could be the Changelings from before they founded the Dominion?
Evolution does not occur quickly.
Founders can't evolve, because they do not lose bad traits each generation, and it can be argued that they do not have generations.
uhm, I don’t think we know exactly what changelings reproduction involves.
I said earlier in the thread evolution isn’t a straight line from less evolved to more evolved. It’s about adapting to fit the here and now whatever that is.
These changelings are evolved to almost perfectly mimic humanoids but maybe because of all that organ gunk they’re carrying around they done have abilities that the DS9 type had. For example going liquid while fighting Jack or assuming the form of something that’s not a humanoid eg hiding as a chair.
A nutribullet and something by Schweppes.
Or survive multiple distruptors shots like fake Martok…
Though Mirror Odo only took a single phaser beam.
Thank you, I thought I'd imagined that!
Anyway a cracking episode, nice to see Ro again however briefly. Shaw's listing of all the mistakes they made was a little Lower Decks (but that's not necessarily a bad thing)
I haven't read the entire thread so apologies, but anyone else thinking the changelings might want Jack because he has some link to the Pah Wraiths?
Picard needed that conversation with Ro more than the fans. That was some brilliant writing.
right! I guess either he wasn’t too good at making anti-phaser “skin” or that that phaser was more powerful than Klingon distruptors.
What happens if they go good?My childhood crushes were usually villains and femme fatales -- Catwoman, Angelique, etc -- so I don't need to worry about them going bad.
A 10.
For me this one was the best TNG episode they've done (across the TNG franchise) period.
I really enjoyed that overall (perhaps except for the fact Ro's security were Changelings and were going to kill her as soon as they knew she was probably cluing other people into the situation) nothing was openly telegraphed to the audience and seeing Ro Lauren return was a big surprise to me (and I love that Michelle Forbes agreed to return). I also love the way they did it as no, until the scene between Picard and Ro in the Holodeck (which was beautifully acted in every way and really fit/made sense for the characters in the way it was written); yeah I really didn't know if Ro was a changeling or not - and I enjoyed that while watching the episode; it WASN'T telegraphed in any was and that's RARE in most Star Trek episodes.
Her death was well done too, and I actually teared up a bit (much like I did at the near the end of STII:TWoK with the final Kirk/Spock scene where Spock dies.) I didn't expect to, but I did.
For me this one was the best TNG episode they've done (across the TNG franchise) period.
I really enjoyed that overall (perhaps except for the fact Ro's security were Changelings and were going to kill her as soon as they knew she was probably cluing other people into the situation) nothing was openly telegraphed to the audience and seeing Ro Lauren return was a big surprise to me (and I love that Michelle Forbes agreed to return). I also love the way they did it as no, until the scene between Picard and Ro in the Holodeck (which was beautifully acted in every way and really fit/made sense for the characters in the way it was written); yeah I really didn't know if Ro was a changeling or not - and I enjoyed that while watching the episode; it WASN'T telegraphed in any was and that's RARE in most Star Trek episodes.
Her death was well done too, and I actually teared up a bit (much like I did at the near the end of STII:TWoK with the final Kirk/Spock scene where Spock dies.) I didn't expect to, but I did.
I have to say, I keep inwardly laughing at the Quincy reference with LaForge. Though missed opportunity to have someone say she was busy reverting to a liquid state herself at that point. (Tbh, I would have been shocked but not surprised if it turned out they had shot the real laforge by accident, and the vomming noise then turned out to be the actual changeling… )
She had more to do and more character development before the credits of episode one than she had had in all the TNG movies combined. Shocking.
She was in the TNG movies!?
They are one person.