Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x05 - "Imposters"
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If Armus comes back, are they going to make him look 3 million dollars cooler?
Exactly my thoughts. The mobile emitter in this episode is a mobile version of the holographic communicator showing a communication from Raffi.
Hosting a sentient hologram is a while different level.
I stand corrected.
yes. His people. Because he was surrounded by not-very-nice people… the Bajoran scientist who experimented on him, and Cardassians who were busy being Space-Soviet and oppressing Bajorans. Who had a religion he likely didn’t fit into too well. (Though that is never addressed)
I’m not going to be looking at the terminator for explanations in universe in Trek.
We do see Odo’s communicator become goo. Over and over again in wide morph shots, and as stated, anytime he is a deck plate or flat surface. We never see it in his bucket, etc etc. production reasons are obvious, but in universe, the logical observed conclusion is that it is a part of him, because sometimes he is in a form that cannot contain it as an object. More often than we see it as a seperate object.
I made up answers for your ‘why doesn’t the other founder do it then’ because essentially you ask me to. I also state the real answer is only an out-of-universe one, like the doors being weak and strong in TNG all at once.
Why that doesn’t apply to all my Odo character analysis, is because it is shown time and time again, and a valid sub-text which is likely possibly an intent in the minds of at least some of the writers. DS9 deals in such things a lot. Odo’s face is a visual representation of ‘You Exist Here’ from Benjamin Sisko in the pilot.
It works with the character as presented, and it works with what we see represented on screen again and again, and I think it also has been discussed here and there by the writers and possibly Auberjonois. It’s a few years since I was reading such things, but I think elements of it were definitely discussed when Odo hosted Curzon.
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A passing thought:
What if ‘the Cardassian neck trick’ that Dukat goads Odo about is actually reference to a time Odo was persuaded to adopt a more Cardassian look? Before reverting under the pretence of not being able to hold it… after all, it would be dangerous to reveal to the Cardassians you could look like any one of them. Better to keep that to yourself in case you ever needed to escape Bajor. In Odo’s position, regardless of any psychological block, better to keep the extent of your abilities hidden. Even the Bajorans whom adopted him (and he in turn adopted) might find it creepy. Birds and bags are one thing, but in that situation the uncanny valley is gonna get you killed.
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Well, you have your pet theory with no evidence and going agains the showrunners’ statements, keep it then, I’m not going to argue any further.
Random thought since Shaw mentioned the thing. Whatever happened to the Enterprise D's saucer section? It's not something that they're going to just leave on Veridian 3 for the inhabitants of Veridian 4 to discover down the line. If it was recovered from the planets surface, where would it be now? Perhaps the fleet museum that Geordi is in command of? The bridge was still largely intact and that ship has got to be considered one of historical importance.
They probably destroyed it like they did the shuttle that crashed in "skin of evil" so armus couldn't get away.
no evidence?
Fair enough, we can agree to differ. But, next time you are watching Odo in DS9, keep the idea about his character in your head, and keep an open mind. If character arcs and sub-text in stories appeals to you at all, I think you will see what I am talking about and possibly find it rewarding. Especially when he does his Tuxedo thing in ‘What We Leave Behind.’
But the prime directive would dictate that they remove all evidence of their ever having been there. Even if they destroyed it, they would have to remove the debris. Anyway, this is just a tangent and a random thought.
I think there’s an onscreen graphic that said as much.
It's almost certainly in the fleet museum and they're almost certainly going to visit it this season. 99.99999999% sure.
Yes, well destroying the debris would be easier than getting a giant section of a ship through an atmosphere intact, no?
Looked like it might be the same one Holo-Elnor was wearing last season, despite apparently being projected by the ship. Production issues!
I mean, I've seen websites itemizing every phaser prop used in TOS.
IIRC The female changeling said she took a face similar to his to make him more comfortable.
Pretty sure we just got the reason in this episode.
I think that was to allow him to move about better. Or script wise, give the bad guys something to hit.
Then why does she look like that always, even if he isn't there?
So the audience knows who that is.