Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x09 - "Hide and Seek"

[DaveyNY]

Perhaps this is a situation the 29th-century time cops will have to take care of.

I mean, they had to clean up the mess left behind by "Timeless", and arguably this whole thing is a lot worse...

You're comparing apples to oranges...
You may have perhaps forgotten that this whole season, after the Stargazer explodes, is a Q Creation.

When all is right again, those semi-drones won't still be in the Picard Cottage basement.
Technically, when Picard and Gang fix whatever Q fiddled with, things will return to the way they were before the explosion.
While Q will probably let a few things remain, I doubt Picard will find bones in his basement walls.

 

[Charles Phipps]

"Stardust City Rag" established that he died in 2386. Assuming he got maybe a year's worth of Academy credits for his studies aboard Voyager before enrolling at the Academy, he could have graduated and been commissioned an officer in 2380, giving him enough time to have had about six years' worth of a career. Since he was a full lieutenant, he presumably was promoted twice, from to Lieutenant Jr. Grade and then Lieutenant; in the real-life U.S. Navy, officers are typically promoted to LTJG after two years, 95% of LTJGs are promoted to LT after two years, and 80% of LTs are promoted to Lieutenant Commander after three years, so it sounds like Icheb would likely have been up for a promotion to LCDR in a year or so had he survived.

Which if Janeway accepted the promotion in place of Seven getting into the academy (probably at Seven's insistence), gives a couple of years for her to arrange for Icheb to get in.

 

[Finn]

How do you feel about the revelation Lxanana Troi was secretly carrying a horrific pain from a dead child?

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Page_(episode)

Part of why I like these revelations is that in addition to "humanizing" our protagonists, they are rarely the ONLY thing guiding them. Picard's mother committing suicide had an effect on him certainly and undoubtedly severely impacted his relationship with his father.

However, it's just one chapter in a very long life made a lot of events that impacted him. Picard was shaped by getting stabbed in the heart, the Stargazer, the Borg, and lots of things we know about. We're always finding out new things about Jean Luc because he's someone who has led a life of many such events.

Yeah. Amazing they didn't bump into an old friend of the family who didn't realize Kestra had passed or forgot that Lwaxana and Ian decided not to tell Deanna about it, and blabbed about her existence to Deanna.

 

[jackoverfull]

You're comparing apples to oranges...
You may have perhaps forgotten that this whole season, after the Stargazer explodes, is a Q Creation.

When all is right again, those semi-drones won't still be in the Picard Cottage basement.
Technically, when Picard and Gang fix whatever Q fiddled with, things will return to the way they were before the explosion.
While Q will probably let a few things remain, I doubt Picard will find bones in his basement walls.

this is just a theory. One that will probably turn out true, but until then our heroes are operating with the mindset that what they do will affect their future.

All but Rios, who got hit on the head during the transporter incident and has been acting like a teenager since then.

 

[NCC-73515]

There’s also a moment in TNG’s “The Schizoid Man” where Worf tells Troi (I think) that she WAS stuck in a wall for a second when they beamed down while the ship was warping away again and she makes a remark about it.

As cited some 47 pages ago

 

[Alexander Corrino]

As cited some 47 pages ago

The whole thing with people having to repeat over and over again that PIC mentions that Robert is at boarding school whenever someone runs in here like THE WRITERS ARE DISRESPECTING TNG THEY HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT CANON THET FORGOT THAT PICARD HAD A BROTHER proves that peoples’ memories need to be refreshed quite frequently

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

I think that was definitely something that should've been mentioned twice in the series, as I was one of the people who completely missed it.

 

[truthchampion]

I wonder how come there wasn't an explosion when the soldiers were beamed into the wall. What happened to the matter that was originally in that space?

Do anything lile that would cause a massive explosion like a nuke. The forces of expansion are vast. Remember that ice expansion experiment sealed in 3 inch thick steels containers?

 

[truthchampion]

Probably not.

They add 'character' to the place.

As the bodies decay a health hazard...also what about the families of these people?

 

[truthchampion]

How did Spock adjust the torpedo yield? Kirk ordered Sulu and Chekov to fire a torpedo on their position and Chekov responded with concern that they might be hurt or killed. Spock doesn't say a word about the torpedo or its yield.

Yes but Sulu and Chekov are smart enough to adjust the yield without being micro managed.

Its like me telling you to fire at enemy soldiers at 50 yards behind a ridge and you fire a mini mortar instead of a large mortar without being told.

 

[Dukhat]

Perhaps this is a situation the 29th-century time cops will have to take care of.

Doubtful. They cause more problem than they fix.

I mean, they had to clean up the mess left behind by "Timeless", and arguably this whole thing is a lot worse...

Wasn't that something the time cops just said they did and we didn't actually see it happen?

 

[cooleddie74]

Yes but Sulu and Chekov are smart enough to adjust the yield without being micro managed.

Its like me telling you to fire at enemy soldiers at 50 yards behind a ridge and you fire a mini mortar instead of a large mortar without being told.

But that's not what you said. You said Spock adjusted the yield.

 

[Gov Kodos]

But that's not what you said. You said Spock adjusted the yield.

It came out of left yield.

 

[cooleddie74]

Please, Kodos. Not in front of the Klingons.

 

[Jack Wolfe]

But that's not what you said. You said Spock adjusted the yield.

It's a common occurrence with this one.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Wasn't that something the time cops just said they did and we didn't actually see it happen?

We didn't actually see them do it, true. But they did it, nonetheless. Just offscreen.

Braxton called it "the temporal inversion in the Takara sector".

 

[fireproof78]

Yes but Sulu and Chekov are smart enough to adjust the yield without being micro managed.

Its like me telling you to fire at enemy soldiers at 50 yards behind a ridge and you fire a mini mortar instead of a large mortar without being told.

Assumes facts not in evidence.

 

[Tosk]

Technically, when Picard and Gang fix whatever Q fiddled with, things will return to the way they were before the explosion.

I'm mildly dubious that this will be the case. There seems to be a lot of things maybe pointing towards a non-reset return trip. Giving Seven her implants back, making sure that Picard was still a robit, JuratiQueen flying off into the sunset, Elnor 2.0...I just wonder why they'd necessarily bother with some of this stuff if there's gonna be a finger-snap and a flash of light in the finale. I could be (and very often am!) wrong of course.

 

[Anduinel]

I'm mildly dubious that this will be the case. There seems to be a lot of things maybe pointing towards a non-reset return trip. Giving Seven her implants back, making sure that Picard was still a robit, JuratiQueen flying off into the sunset, Elnor 2.0...I just wonder why they'd necessarily bother with some of this stuff if there's gonna be a finger-snap and a flash of light in the finale. I could be (and very often am!) wrong of course.

The way I read Seven's "maybe we can be friends someday" was that the Agnes that traveled back with the crew is effectively dead, as is the Confederation timeline Borg Queen. Their willing melding created a new lifeform. The new Queenie still has to close the circle by coming back through the rift, but the Agnes that was on the Stargazer's bridge still stands apart.

I don't think Picard still being a synth is indicative of anything; that's just his new status quo. And holo Elnor seems to just be a way to give Raffi closure that they're probably not going to make room for in the finale given that Elnor and Raffi were on a different ship when the action was taking place.

Seven's implants though... that's a harder one to square, because you're very right: if Q can just finger snap things back to normal, why the plot redundancy? Possibly it's to give Seven that moment of acceptance that wouldn't be possible with the insta-reset back to the Stargazer. But yeah, something to think about.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The way I read Seven's "maybe we can be friends someday" was that the Agnes that traveled back with the crew is effectively dead, as is the Confederation timeline Borg Queen. Their willing melding created a new lifeform. The new Queenie still has to close the circle by coming back through the rift, but the Agnes that was on the Stargazer's bridge still stands apart.

I don't think Picard still being a synth is indicative of anything; that's just his new status quo. And holo Elnor seems to just be a way to give Raffi closure that they're probably not going to make room for in the finale given that Elnor and Raffi were on a different ship when the action was taking place.

Seven's implants though... that's a harder one to square, because you're very right: if Q can just finger snap things back to normal, why the plot redundancy? Possibly it's to give Seven that moment of acceptance that wouldn't be possible with the insta-reset back to the Stargazer. But yeah, something to think about.

The Borg back up their files.

There is an unspoiled Jurati on file in there some where just like there's an 8 year old Anika from seconds before they started assimilating her.