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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x09 - "Hide and Seek"
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Starfleet won’t take 7 of nine but they take murderous jelarti,Raffi, and Elnor it’s laughable. Plus ex borg Picard, Janeway, and tuvok. Bwahha. This show omg
The Borg are the greatest threat that the Federation has faced. Having a member who was a close to the Borg Queen would raise serious doubt. And is consistent given they didn't trust Picard against the Borg in First Contact.
So, yeah, pretty consistent with past lore.
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Jurati. And the first episode of season two explained why she was cleared of murder. Starfleet also has no issues with people killing in self-defence, which clears Raffi and Elnor; look at Worf and Jadzia Dax for god's sake.
Picard, Janeway, and Tuvok (and Torres) were completely de-assimilated; whereas Seven retained implants and Borg capabilities, and had virtually no memory of her pre-Borg existence. At the time Voyager returned to the Alpha Quadrant, she still referred to herself as "Borg", which the others definitely did not do either.
"This show" indeed! Some people, OMG.
We’ve been promised this for nearly 60-years now.
You guys never give the valentines to the fans a chance.
There’s also a moment in TNG’s “The Schizoid Man” where Worf tells Troi (I think) that she WAS stuck in a wall for a second when they beamed down while the ship was warping away again and she makes a remark about it.
Didn't Starfleet rehire LaForge after he attempted to assassinate a Klingon Governor? Or am I misremembering an episode. TNG is not my strong suite.
That’s right: “The Mind’s Eye”. And, much like Jurati, he was subjected to mind-controlling conditioning. Here’s the last scene:
If Geordi can continue to be the Chief Engineer of the Federation flagship after trying to assassinate a Klingon Governor while under Romulan mind control then I don't see the real issue in Jurati being let off the hook for killing Maddox.
And, they took Icheb!
They had other reasons not to take Seven. Likely not good ones after the service she gave Voyager and Janeway going to bat for her (though maybe that was it, Janeway hurt more than she helped.)
When Seven was a drone, she was actively hostile towards Voyager in a way that Icheb never was.
So if Starfleet balked at admitting her, I can buy it.
Indeed, the argument can be made that Icheb never actually was a drone. He was never connected to the collective at large. So he was always less of a security risk than Seven.
So if Starfleet balked at admitting her, I can buy it.
Indeed, the argument can be made that Icheb never actually was a drone. He was never connected to the collective at large. So he was always less of a security risk than Seven.
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Icheb hadn't been in the Collective that long, including a special choice for the Queen.
Icheb was more recently released.
And Janeway arguing for a Borg after a recent Borg attack with Picard's freak out? Yeah, no.
If I were writing this, I'd have Seven not join Starfleet and have Janeway become an Admiral.
Which allowed her to accept Icheb.
Remember, there's no need to assume Icheb IMMEDIATELY joined Starfleet.
Perhaps this is a situation the 29th-century time cops will have to take care of.
I mean, they had to clean up the mess left behind by "Timeless", and arguably this whole thing is a lot worse...
Wasn't Icheb a full Lieutenant when he died?
In any case, I never seriously thought Seven would want to join Starfleet in the first place. She never seemed like the type.
I wonder if it was Janeway's passion project?
I don't think we got a time frame for when he was killed so that's a fairly lengthy career plus the Academy he could have had.
"Stardust City Rag" established that he died in 2386. Assuming he got maybe a year's worth of Academy credits for his studies aboard Voyager before enrolling at the Academy, he could have graduated and been commissioned an officer in 2380, giving him enough time to have had about six years' worth of a career. Since he was a full lieutenant, he presumably was promoted twice, from to Lieutenant Jr. Grade and then Lieutenant; in the real-life U.S. Navy, officers are typically promoted to LTJG after two years, 95% of LTJGs are promoted to LT after two years, and 80% of LTs are promoted to Lieutenant Commander after three years, so it sounds like Icheb would likely have been up for a promotion to LCDR in a year or so had he survived.
