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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x09 - "Hide and Seek"

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JANEWAY: I've set Voyager's auto-destruct. If you don't let Seven into Starfleet, I'll vaporize this city and all of you with it.
TOP BRASS: Um, we removed the warp core from the Voyager museum and replaced it with a holographic replica. So go ahead, vaporize us. Would you care for a latte while we all wait for oblivion?
JANEWAY: Computer, end program. Well that didn't work...
 
JANEWAY: I've set Voyager's auto-destruct. If you don't let Seven into Starfleet, I'll vaporize this city and all of you with it.
TOP BRASS: Um, we removed the warp core from the Voyager museum and replaced it with a holographic replica. So go ahead, vaporize us. Would you care for a latte while we all wait for oblivion?
JANEWAY: Computer, end program. Well that didn't work...

She should have called Sisko and asked him to release poison gas into some planetary atmospheres.
 
This episode was chock full of payoff going back to the first episode. The two things you mentioned are totally irrelevant to the seasonal arc, so it's not surprising they aren't dealt with well here.

I'm talking about the individual episode. Seasons have an arc, and episodes have an arc as well. But this is my point, I don't think the writers are capable of that, as basic as it may seem.

As for the whole "DNA lock" thing, it was a stupid line/twist, but it's the kind of thing you forget about in a few minutes as the story moves on.

That's another way of saying lazy writing. And my point stands, it could have easily been a much more satisfying and emotional payoff had they put some effort into it, and not just something you quickly forget.

Action scenes, especially ones involving firearms/phasers, should have emotional stakes and consequences.
 
The Parasites signed up to work for that glorious bastard.

As for the whole "DNA lock" thing, it was a stupid line/twist, but it's the kind of thing you forget about in a few minutes as the story moves on.
I could have bought it if the thing just didn't fire. You could get it back. At least it's harmless. Why make it a fucking bomb?

Hey Joe, get my phaser!

Sure! Hey Dan? Where are you? Oh SHI- BOOOM!
 
My broader point is we shouldn't expect with all of the butterflies Federation tech and Confederation tech are identical. The second episode seemed to intimate that Earth had conquered the entire galaxy, which would have resulted in being exposed to a whole lot of technology the Federation never saw. At least some of those races they took over would have been thousands of years ahead of the Federation in tech, after all.

I don't think the Romulan Star Empire survived the Earth Romulan War 2156 -2160, and after 240 years with a boot on their throat, you can almost trust your romulan slaves not to steal the silverware.

So no one invented the Cloak in the Confederation Time Line.
 
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I'm talking about the individual episode. Seasons have an arc, and episodes have an arc as well. But this is my point, I don't think the writers are capable of that, as basic as it may seem.

Unfortunately tons of serialized TV these days is written without each individual episode having a coherent three-part arc. That's not a fault of Picard, that's just the expectations of the "10-hour movie" era.

That's another way of saying lazy writing.

Yes, it's a bad line. There are a lot of bad lines in this episode, albeit less than a few episodes back. But it's more important for an episode to get the "big things" right, along with (this late into a serialized season of TV) start paying off the season arcs. It did both of those.
 
I'm not sure how having new path to the Borg some 400 years before the main timeline won't change it drastically..
this is too much of a mess to fix. The only way is probably Q snapping everything back (or to a third timeline for season 3)
 
Unfortunately tons of serialized TV these days is written without each individual episode having a coherent three-part arc. That's not a fault of Picard, that's just the expectations of the "10-hour movie" era.

Yes, it's a bad line. There are a lot of bad lines in this episode, albeit less than a few episodes back. But it's more important for an episode to get the "big things" right, along with (this late into a serialized season of TV) start paying off the season arcs. It did both of those.

I disagree but I understand your perspective.
 
I don't think the Romulan Star Empire survived the Earth Romulan War 2156 -2160, and after 340 years with a boot on their throat, you can almost trust romulan slave not to steal the silverware.

So no one invented the Cloak in the Confederation Time Line.

Ahh yes, because we all know the way the Trekverse works...technology is only invented one time, by one race, and if they don't create it, none of the thousands upon thousands of races will ever use the scientific method to discover the same thing.
 
Pity they didn't go with the Emergency C'thulu Hologram...

Just kidding.

An Emergency Combat Hologram should have, like, razor claws for hands and swords for arms and spit shurikens out of its mouth. For starters.

Kudos to Agnes for resurrecting poor Elnor, however. She couldn't have stalled the Queen without him.
 
I heard through the grapevine the Parasites make an appearance in Strange New Worlds and they'll figure prominently in Discovery Season 5. Their plan will be 930 years in the making, by the time Burnham single-handedly stops them all.

:devil: :devil: :devil:

This is where someone else here chimes in and says, "See?! I knew it! I FUCKING KNEW IT!!!!"

"Teh Burnham" >>>> "Teh Sisko"!!!


40% glaring, 25% shouting and 35% Jambalaya.
And 25% different!
 
I'm just glad they explained why Picard's later visions and memories of his mother were as an old woman. When they revealed Yvette dead from hanging herself my first thought was: "Well, this is gonna complicate his vision of his mother in TNG. How do they explain that now?" Kudos to the producers for doing the homework to recall that scene and incorporate an explanation.
 
Overall great episode. We are starting to see some payoff for earlier in the season.

The good:
I love the Jurati arc. It's a great ending for both the BQ and Jurati. It also opens up a number of interesting potential Borg stories for the future.
The themes of love, loss, and guilt were well done. Rafi coming to terms with the death of Elnor and Picard having to accept the death of his mother and his hand in it worked.
There was a good blend of drama and action.

Weakness-and these are minor:
I (sort of) agree that the exploding phaser was a miss. I would have rather if that had been a bluff and the phaser just not worked. (However, I am on the fence with this as a Starfleet phaser shouldn't explode but we really don't know the source of the phasers on the La Sirena).
Picard's hide and seek memories did seem a bit long. By the time they show what happened, it felt perhaps less surprising than it should have if it were tightened a bit.

Overall, I gave it a 9 as it's a very rewatchable episode with some solid character moments.
 
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