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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 2x09 - "Hide and Seek"

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La Sirena has a cloaking device, after all, despite the Federation still not using them in the main timeline.
The Treaty of Algernon 2311, said that the Federation would not pursue Cloaking technology, in exchange for peace in our time. The Federation didn't use Cloaks anyway, invisible people can't be trusted. The Federation loves trust. The Cloaked duck-blind from Star Trek Insurrection... Either the treaty was exclusively with Star Fleet, or the treaty was only interested in denying Cloaked ships, so cloaked crap sitting on a planet like an android a duck-blind or a tank is fine? Or was the Duck-Blind using a completely different methodology to create invisibility, so it was not legally identical to cloaking technology?

The Destruction of Romulus 2387. The Treaty should be over, but one star blowing up shouldn't destroy 1/16th of the galaxy... Is there still a Romulan Star Empire, and a new seat for the Empire, and a fleet of war ships that still expects starfleet to honor the treaties made with the earlier rendition of the empire, if it isn't still the same leadership who just moved 9 light years to the left years before their sun went nova.

During WWII every Russian that escaped foreign imprisonment, was executed by Stalin when they got home. He didn't trust they were not turned, and he didn't have to trust any one, because there was a surplus of loyalists willing to die for the cause, and he's one of history's largest bastards.

If the Romulan refugees were welcome to return home, they would have been fools to think that they would receive a warm tortureless welcome.
 
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The visual of the Borg-commandos walking around the vineyard with their little green laser pointers looked very cool -especially from a distance - even if it's silly for them to point out their position so clearly like that.

Jurati's chat with the queen towards the end when she finally regains most control was pretty good, and probably the idea that sparked the story for the entire season of the show.

Everything else was... well, I'll just say I really hope there's minimal overlap between the writers for this season of Picard and those for the upcoming SNW...
 
He had gone to bed and was sleeping, as Picard said in the episode.

I'm guessing either Picard's parents slept in separate rooms already (either due to marital tensions, or just because one of them was a loud snorer) or that his dad decided to "sleep on the couch" because he couldn't lock himself into the room with her without risking her escape.
 
Seven: "What did they say?"
Janeway: "They told me no."
Seven: "Really."
Janeway: "Unfortunately."
Seven: "What now?"
Janeway: (*flapping sound with mouth*) "Correspondence course?"
Seven: "Captain?"
Janeway: "Chakotay's lonely. At least think about it."
 
The Treaty of Algernon 2311, said that the Federation would not pursue Cloaking technology, in exchange for peace in our time. The Federation didn't use Cloaks anyway, invisible people can't be trusted. The Federation loves trust. The Cloaked duck-blind from Star Trek Insurrection... Either the treaty was exclusively with Star fleet, or the treaty was only interested in denying Cloaked ships, so cloaked crap sitting on a planet like an android a duck-blind or a tank is fine? Or was the Duck-blind using a complete difference methodology to create invisibility, so it was not legally identical to cloaking technology.

The Destruction of Romulus 2387. The Treaty should be over, but one star blowing up shouldn't destroy 1/16th of the galaxy... Is there still a Romulan Star Empire, and a new seat for the Empire, and a fleet of war ships that still expects starfleet to honor the treaties made with the earlier rendition of the empire, if it isn't still the same leadership who just moved 9 light years to the left years before their sun went nova.

During WWII every Russian that escaped foreign imprisonment, was executed by Stalin when they got home. He didn't trust they were not turned, and he didn't have to trust any one, because there was a surplus of loyalists willing to die for the cause, and he's one of history's largest bastards.

If the Romulan refugees were welcome to return home, they would have been fools to think that they would receive a warm tortureless welcome.

My broader point is we shouldn't expect with all of the butterflies Federation tech and Confederation tech are identical. The second episode seemed to intimate that Earth had conquered the entire galaxy, which would have resulted in being exposed to a whole lot of technology the Federation never saw. At least some of those races they took over would have been thousands of years ahead of the Federation in tech, after all.
 
Wait a second...didn't they let Icheb into Starfleet?

Maybe that was years later - after Seven had made her decisions.

Or maybe it shows Starfleet saying no had nothing to do with Seven being Borg, and there were other reasons.
 
I love the quality of a firearm left in a box for nearly a century, loaded and ready to fire, doesn't have a catastrophic failure. Should have taken a box of grenades with them to soften up the territory ahead.
 
I don’t see the issue.
Holodecks have been able to recreate real people like that since TNG.

It’s the mobile emitter I’m confused about, that was 29th century technology.

Also why did he need a mobile emitter? Guess Confederation La Sirena didn’t have holoemitters throughout the ship.

It just comes across as lazy writing. Its like the writers have never heard of a setup and payoff.

It happened again later in the episode. At the end, when Rios was fighting and seemed to be winning, and then Spiner put the drop on him with the phaser, which up to that point of the scene, all was good. Some nice tension and suspense were built up. But the way the writers came up with "the phaser doesn't recognize DNA" was one of the laziest and least satisfying things I've seen. Had they set something up earlier in the episode, and had Rios use that setup to best Spiner at the end after Spiner pulled the phaser on him, that would have been a much more emotionally satisfying payoff.

I honestly don't think, and I'm being serious here, as basic as a setup and payoff may seem, I just don't think the writers on this show are capable of that kind of writing.
 
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I could see them denying Seven a commission in Starfleet as a way to help shovel dirt over the failure of the Raven expedition in the 2350s. The Hansens may well have been very sensitive information to Starfleet and the Federation and admitting Annika Hansen to Starfleet may have reminded too many older flag officers and intelligence officials of their own failures and cover-ups.

Sometimes people aren't admitted to colleges because their parents were controversial on campus or had bad blood with the faculty. Nothing to do with the kid, but politics has its place in all walks of life.
 
Confederation has mobile emitter tech, interesting



Seven was also a Borg a hell of a lot longer than Icheb was.

This is my thought too. Icheb was still basically a baby-borg, wheras Seven was a hardened combat/assimilation veteran. There was sentiment, IIRC, that Picard should not have been reinstated after his assimilation too.

Looking at all these loose ends that only have one episode to be rectified, I wonder if we might have a cliffhanger finale that will be resolved next season.
 
Now pass that satin dress and those red pumps. This Starfleet Intelligence meeting isn't going to hold itself.
 
I honestly don't think, and I'm being serious here, as basic as a setup and payoff may seem, I just don't think the writers on this show are capable of that kind of writing.

This episode was chock full of payoff going back to the first episode. The two things you mentioned are totally irrelevant to the seasonal arc, so it's not surprising they aren't dealt with well here.

I honestly feel like the "holo-emitter" may have just been a production goof on the part of the costume team. I went back and checked, and even in the first episode, when Seven and Emmett are kicking the pirates' asses, he has no holo-emitter. So it's not even like they "forgot" how the holos worked from last season. Just look at it as some crap the hologram had pasted to him, nothing less, and nothing more. Maybe holos just need to have that on their arm to signify they are holos in the Confederation?

As for the whole "DNA lock" thing, it was a stupid line/twist, but it's the kind of thing you forget about in a few minutes as the story moves on.
 
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