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Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 1x02 - "Maps and Legends"

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That’s 4 by my count
What were those? The one in Discovery is the only other one that comes to mind.

Tilly: That's so fucking cool!
Stamets: It is fucking cool.

Clancy: Fucking hubris!

Leah Brahams: So you're the one who's fouled up my engines.

The way Leah says it, that counts as an honorary. We know what she really would've said if the censors would've allowed it.
 
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It took my second watch through to realize Soji’s new co-worker was a trill. Her spots are really hard to see.

As I mentioned in the thread discussing The Trouble With Edward, the idea of a black trill with dark spots is stupid. Presumably the Trill spots evolved via natural selection for some sort of display reason, and they don't show up well on dark skin.

I have no issue with black trill existing, but they should have inverted it and given them light spots or something.
 
We'll find out soon enough, but I wonder what happened between Musiker and Picard. I figured she might be pissed off that he went to the Vineyard and "gave up". But she's familiar with the vintages of the Chateau. "Is that the '86?" So something more must've happened.
I suspect he dragged her down with him...possibly rescuing some Romulans against orders. Hence the line from the trailers, "Another top secret rescue mission?"
 
Fenris Rangers. That's the organization that Annika "Seven of Nine" Hansen* is working with these days.

* - subject to correction upon the reintroduction of her character
 
Tilly: That's so fucking cool!
Stamets: It is fucking cool.

Clancy: Fuking hubris!

Leah Brahams: So you're the one who's fouled up my engines.

The way Leah says it, that counts as an honorary. We know what she really would've said if the censors would've allowed it.

Cheeky feckers.
Amazon subtitles didn't say "feckers" ;)

With Leah's quote, that makes 5 :)
 
That clock reflection was done on purpose.
It was another representation of Picard getting old and him realizing it.

It's called 'setting up the scene' with Dramatic License.
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What you have done is called "not reading a post properly and jumping the gun. Completely missing the point I made."

I said was that it was done as an effect. As in, "done on a computer" instead of just doing it for real. That's what I didn't like about it.
 
Whilst I hate large scale prominent retcons (like radically changing the appearance of the most iconic Trek ship) I'm super fine with retconning throwaway details such as dates, exact tech specs etc. For example the whole Eugenics War timeline doesn't work anyway, all things stated about it on screen simply cannot be true, so we might as well ignore the 1990s reference. Then all the other facts fit, the EW being the same as WWWIII, and Trek can still remain as 'our future.'
Iconic ship to most people
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One thing I am not a huge fan of is that they are using so much implied knowledge from things established in Picard: Countdown that we're being forced to get the comic to understand everything. Also they don't mention this fact in the show anywhere so if it weren't for you guys I'd have no idea the comic was even there, and was required reading to understand half the main characters.

I dunno, why can't they do a "Previously on Star Trek" with pages from the comic? :)

Traditionally the print material has been a separate canon, so I hope they don't go in the direction of having entire print series be official alpha canon that will be used as implied knowledge for future story developments.
 
One thing I am not a huge fan of is that they are using so much implied knowledge from things established in Picard: Countdown that we're being forced to get the comic to understand everything. Also they don't mention this fact in the show anywhere so if it weren't for you guys I'd have no idea the comic was even there, and was required reading to understand half the main characters.

My wife has not read the comics nor seen any other Trek (a bit of TNG thirty years ago) and it makes sense to her...
 
I really don't think the comic is at all required in order to understand the show.

I agree, except I've run into people who haven't read the comic who are upset for some reason that Picard has two Tal Shiar agents working on his vineyard.
 
Not really. It’s perfectly possible to maintain continuity with an older imagined version. And the move is towards that, not away from it. Blade Runner 2049 did exactly the same thing, and did not suffer for it.
It was alright. But Star Trek isn't Blade Runner.
 
I agree, except I've run into people who haven't read the comic who are upset for some reason that Picard has two Tal Shiar agents working on his vineyard.

This is a valid point. In the first episode, someone unfamiliar can just assume relations between the Federation and Romulans have improved and leave it at that. In the second episode, when they mention the Tal'Shiar, someone would right to wonder "What's going on here?" I hope they explain it within the show itself too. They probably will in the third episode, which seems like it'll be the last of the "opening" episodes, before we head into the middle portion of the season.
 
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