Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 3x05 - "Reflections"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Sep 21, 2022 at 5:11 PM.

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  1. jackoverfull

    jackoverfull Commodore Commodore

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    true but not really an issue if they decide to have it both ways: this episode takes place only around seven years since Sisko’s disappearance, he could well come back later, say around the time Picard is set, some 25 years later.
     
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  2. cooleddie74

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    Loved seeing the use of Arcturians on the planet. Aside from TSFS they're barely gotten any notice in Trek productions since 1979 and their design is kind of eerie and cool.
     
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  3. shapeshifter

    shapeshifter Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Reread the entire exchange...

    I was saying that what Avery thinks Sisko would do does not matter, canon does and in canon Sisko is still in the CT.

    So yeah, he could come back, but he hasn't.
     
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  4. NCC-73515

    NCC-73515 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    and in the LDS game
     
  5. starri

    starri Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    "I wasn't going to race without my friends!"

    Star Trek has always been a show about Chosen Family, but LD seems to get that on a deeper level than most.
     
  6. ExtremeSail

    ExtremeSail Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    New Star Trek comic by the Year Five team will star Sisko. It's treated as canon until disputed by new on screen material.
     
  7. thribs

    thribs Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I think they just teased the finale for the season. Something is going to happen to Marnier which will have her leave Starfleet, only for her to come back in season 4.
     
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  8. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk Garth of Algar Premium Member

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    Treated as canon by who???
     
  9. fireproof78

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    Top men.
     
  10. Turtletrekker

    Turtletrekker Admiral Admiral

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    So...

    Not canon then.
     
  11. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    An M109A6 Paladin is more canon than a Star Trek comic book.
     
  12. Charles Phipps

    Charles Phipps Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Yes, which is why it's terrible.
     
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  13. Sakonna

    Sakonna Commodore Commodore

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    Also, haven't they been teasing that as a multiverse story? It sounds like it might be explicitly setup as an alternate timeline.
     
  14. kirk55555

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    Not a great episode, but it was ok, which probably makes it the best episode this season. Boimler's freak out and getting some of Rutherford's backstory were the highlights.
     
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  15. JirinPanthosa

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    THE DOCTOR DIDN'T SPEND SEVEN YEARS IN THE DELTA QUADRANT FOR YOU F***S TO QUESTION HIS AGENCY!!!

    I love this episode. Too awesome a character history for Rutherford to be in a strictly comedy context.

    Another deep cut the guy with the weird face jewelry from Most Toys.
     
  16. Airmandan

    Airmandan Commander Red Shirt

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    To whomever writer works on the show that probably reads this forum, We thank you for what you’ve done so far, keep it up.
     
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  17. NCC-73515

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    It's just because of this line from an interview:
    "This is as close as we can, on the comic side, to being canon. We will be canon until they un-canonize us."
    Like Countdown back then, they wanna boost sales and get attention. Who could blame them? But there is a contradiction here already: are they as close as it gets... or are they, period. XD
    Before another canon debate gets out of hand: No comics, books, games, etc. have so far been canonical, and there is no indication that's ever gonna change. Official tie-in material with series or movie staff on board, like the same writers, of course elevates it somehow to 'seemingly more canonical than random disconnected stuff', because it is tied to canonical productions that happen around the same time, and there are cases that are being respected in canon (like Worf having command of the E as written in the books), but no comic is per se canonical, and future canon can overwrite and contradict comics and novels. Don't let anyone stop anyone from taking non-contradicted beta material as provisional canon, though! :D

    If this needs to be continued, perhaps the comics section, or DS9 section, is better for that than, you know, the LDS episode thread ;)
     
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  18. Paul755

    Paul755 Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Great episode.

    Boimler snapping was wonderful, the different Rutherfords, The Delta Flyer. Good stuff.

    8/10
     
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  19. ExtremeSail

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    Just to close out this Sisko comic canon business, @NCC-73515 is correct, I misinterpreted what writer Jackson Lanzing said:
    And IDW Publishing calls this new comic the start of "a new ongoing IDW continuity". I thought they were doing canon comics like Star Wars is doing.

    My bad, not so canon after all :shrug:
     
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  20. Richard S. Ta

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    Another episode that was strong on story but short on laughs this season.

    I didn't hate it. I like the way the characters are growing and the animation/writing is very strong. It's just not so funny for me this season.

    Humour is subjective of course. Not saying it's not funny per se. Just the jokes aren't landing for me.