Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x09 - "wej Duj"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Lower Decks' started by Commander Richard, Oct 6, 2021.

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  1. Commander Troi

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  2. dupersuper

    dupersuper Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Well, Lower Decks finally did it: they got a 10 from me.

    Maybe it ended up being more reformed than disbanded when the dust settled.

    I mean, they just made it bigger...

    Seriously??? He's gone from the bumbling guy who gets taken in by Mariner's Ferengi buddy and humiliated by a spider-cow to the guy who gets %100 on a Borg simulation and outsmarts an evil computer. He went from a kiss-ass desperate to impress to some one willing to embarrass himself to calm down scorpion Tendi.

    Yeah, I'm picturing plenty of aquatic aliens. Maybe Xindi Aquatics, Legarans in specialized tanks, TAS Aquans...
     
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  3. Brobdingnag

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    The most boring hour of television ever.
     
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  4. Sci

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    "High Command" is a pretty generic term though -- and "wej Duj" is set two hundred twenty-six years after "Kir'Shara." That's plenty of time for the High Command military dictatorship seen in ENT to be disbanded and a new High Command that restricts itself to only running Vulcan's space agency to be established.

    I mean, I wouldn't necessarily assume that larger size equals more powerful. Remember, they said the Defiant is as powerful as a Galaxy-class starship even though it's significantly smaller. The Sh'vhal might have been large because of the need to carry specialized scientific equipment, for instance, while having engines and weapons not much more powerful than, say, an Ambassador-class starship.
     
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  5. Timo

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    Surely she was built that large in order to mount those vitally important 20-meter-high portholes?

    (...Vital for accommodating that clone army Master Syfok-T'yas ordered from the Phylosians?)

    Timo Saloniemi
     
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  6. cooleddie74

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    The Constitution-class starships were obviously the pride of the fleet even in DSC as both Burnham and Stamets expressed awe and respect for their reputations and designs while it's obvious they're not the biggest starships in service at that time. Connies of that decade probably outpowered most if not all other starships in the Federation and were the career goal of many Starfleet Cadets about to graduate and receive their first deep space posting.
     
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  7. Turtletrekker

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    Detmer as well.
     
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  8. Silvercrest

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    Coming in late after initial DVD watch.

    Mrs. Silvercrest points out that the previous Klingon XO, the one M'Ach replaced, was likely making the exact same realization about his captain when he attacked. His accusations were cut off so fast that we couldn't hear what they were, other than the generic epithet that the captain was, as usual, "without honor". But the whole episode would've gone differently if he'd waited to recruit a few others.
     
  9. Qonundrum

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    I'd rather not. :guffaw:
     
  10. Qonundrum

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    ^^this

    The episode had a lot of moments, but that one had to be the best. Certainly the most unexpected.
     
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  11. hbquikcomjamesl

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    Watched it last night. Then immediately re-watched it with the commentary. Then the other episode-level special features.

    Probably the first Pakled episode since "Samaritan Snare" that wasn't tiresome.

    Lots of absurdism. Like a Benzite who claimed to be Hawaiian. (Kind of like Coneheads claiming to be from France.)
     
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    It's still a ten for me. Very strong episode. I'm hoping for more T'Lyn.
     
  13. Tuskin38

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    I mean, if he was born an raised in Hawaii, would that not make him from Hawaii?
     
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  14. CorporalCaptain

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    I think it would.
     
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  15. jackoverfull

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    we don’t know when the first contact was, but if it happened centuries ago a benzite might well consider himself Hawaiian.
     
  16. hbquikcomjamesl

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    According to the commentary track on the DVD, you will get your wish. Also according to that commentary track (on which writer Kathryn Lyn participated), T'Lyn is Ms. Lyn's convention cosplay persona.
     
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  17. Tuskin38

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    Yeah that was revealed shortly after the episode aired.
     
  18. hbquikcomjamesl

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    I also rather liked the off-duty outfit Barnes was wearing when called to the Bridge, and its implication that she'd been using a "pond skating" holodeck program.

    "Barnes" seems an odd name for a Trill.
     
  19. Tuskin38

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    Maybe she was adopted by Humans, or her mother married a Human. there's a few possbilities for a Trill to have a human name.

    Or maybe coincidentally, Trill have names that sound just like Human names.

    Heck, Jadzia is apparently the diminutive of the feminine Polish name, Jadwiga, though I don't know it's pronounced the same.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadwiga

    Tobin is also a given name
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobin_(given_name)

    Ezri is Hebrew
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezri

    Dax is a real world family name
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dax

    I guess the difference with these is that they're uncommon names.
     
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  20. matthunter

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    Barnes is possibly half-human: many have commented that her spots are fainter than those of most Trill.