Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x09 - "Lagrange Point"
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Nagilum.
Oh shit no! No no no no!
His was the most........human, I've ever known.
It's all an illusion created by duranium shadows and thoron fields! Don't fall for it!!!
Why haven't those black holes merged already? I wish they'd add the doppler shift effects that Interstellar left out.
It'll be a 3-parter then
86 min!
That's the equivalent to within a couple of minutes of the run time of "Endgame(VOY)" minus commercials. Not too shabby for a 2024 streaming series.
It wasn't a bad episode, just nothing really unique about it, kind of a paint-by-number outing with the requisite action scenes breaking up some well-executed, if familiar and uninspired character development. I did llke the Rayner reluctance to sit in the chair, and figured his butt would be in it at episode end, because otherwise why have that story line... The Genesis device looked a bit like a Tardis spinning around out there in space to me. The great mystery of course is where does the interior of the thing take you... I initially thought Breen red shirts, but then Moll and Burnham jumped right in... kind of similar to the Guardian of Forever. I enjoyed Tilly's repartee with Rayner, and the rocking hair reacting to a blast hitting Discovery during the Breen dust-up. Of course the Breen had to have a vulnerability so conveniently discovered, but then you always have to suspend belief to a certain extent to service the story. I liked the faces inside of Breen helmets and Book's "flirting" with that other guard. Noticed a use of "they" to refer to the ensign, and thought the parental concern for Idira was well handled. I sure wouldn't have a pattern buffer with the essence of my love hanging on my sleeve like Moll did, for crying out loud. The Saru relationship was kind of lackluster and predictable, but the actors made it work I thought. Nothing stood out about the score this time... A fun episode, with a lot happening in in it, I guess worthy of a middling 8. I'll miss Discovery...
Getting excited for next week. Don't give a shit about what debbie-downers think. I'm getting ready to party like there's no tomorrow!
In the 32nd Century?
So.. how much of a time slip happened while they were near the black hole? None?? Bullpucky..
Seriously?
On that topic what about Moll? She was stated as being human in episode 1, however at least her father was not, or was he a human living on Kwejian? Memory does not serve me here.
They have had temporal shields centuries earlier so we can presume they retrofitted Discovery with them.
Nagilum.
I'd actually like to see him again, but not with these writers. "Where Silence Has Lease" was excellent.
I was really waiting for them to at least try to explain that.
Mind, I was also waiting for an explanation about why they thought the Progenitor thingy had been there for a billion years given you could put it in a box and move it.
Temporal technology is banned.
Time travel, time wars are band. Why would temporal shields be banned to protect from an incursion, just in case someone breaks the rules? And someone will break the rules.
Okay, this was MUCH better than last week's. Jonathan Frakes again works his directing magic. This was much more focused and didn't feel like it was dragging.
FINALLY, Saru is back! Every scene with him was a reminder of how sorely he has been missed. And T'Rina has simply been awesome. Tara Rosling has proven to be an excellent casting choice for that role.
Rayner was simply badass here! It is a true shame that we won't get more of him past this season. (Honestly, him and Saru are the MVPs of this series.) My only issue is with him picking Tilly as XO. It didn't make sense in season 3, and it doesn't make sense now, not when there are other people who have been in Starfleet much longer. (How many Lt. Commanders are on the bridge alone? I've lost count.) I get that it's a position and the rank doesn't have to be a high one to be in it, but as a Lt. j.g. she is simply not as experienced an officer as so many other ones around her are. It feels like it disrespects the experience of all the other officers who have been serving much longer. I also get that because she's in the title sequence, they had to insert her in the action on the bridge. But she can be a part of the action (a good part of it, if done right) by simply doing her science stuff at her station. This was one of the things I thought was ridiculous in season 3, and I'm sorry that the writers did it again.
Burnham and Book work well together... I thought it was funny how she noticed his 'flirting' tactic for a diversion. But I really wish the writers could resist the urge for YET ANOTHER pouring of emotions with a TICKING CLOCK. (Attack of the writing room shrink... AGAIN.) At least Burnham bothered to acknowledge that it wasn't the best time for that. (I was genuinely shocked she even had enough professionalism and remembrance of Starfleet training to actually say that.) Hey, writers... maybe you should pay attention to what even the CHARACTER HERSELF said. You couldn't spare us this for JUST ONE EPISODE?!
I was glad we got to learn a bit about the Breen, and they started off well in DISCO... but they have been given a huge disservice these last two episodes. Last week, they can't make up their minds about L'ak. He was an outcast on that ship when we first learn of him, then all of a sudden he is a revered figure, to the point that they follow his wife, who is not even Breen, to possible war. (Given their clear bias against anyone that isn't Breen, this is just too unbelievable.) And this week, they seem to let EVERYONE in the galaxy know that a HUMAN is in charge of a BREEN faction. What happened to the race that was so secretive no one even knew about their physiology? Or the clear xenophobia and disgust they have of other races that has been shown repeatedly this season? I actually preferred them on DS9... mysterious to the point where you don't even know what they are saying.
Overall, it was a good episode that had some things I just found unbelievable. The pacing and tight direction really helped here. I give it an 8.
FINALLY, Saru is back! Every scene with him was a reminder of how sorely he has been missed. And T'Rina has simply been awesome. Tara Rosling has proven to be an excellent casting choice for that role.
Rayner was simply badass here! It is a true shame that we won't get more of him past this season. (Honestly, him and Saru are the MVPs of this series.) My only issue is with him picking Tilly as XO. It didn't make sense in season 3, and it doesn't make sense now, not when there are other people who have been in Starfleet much longer. (How many Lt. Commanders are on the bridge alone? I've lost count.) I get that it's a position and the rank doesn't have to be a high one to be in it, but as a Lt. j.g. she is simply not as experienced an officer as so many other ones around her are. It feels like it disrespects the experience of all the other officers who have been serving much longer. I also get that because she's in the title sequence, they had to insert her in the action on the bridge. But she can be a part of the action (a good part of it, if done right) by simply doing her science stuff at her station. This was one of the things I thought was ridiculous in season 3, and I'm sorry that the writers did it again.
Burnham and Book work well together... I thought it was funny how she noticed his 'flirting' tactic for a diversion. But I really wish the writers could resist the urge for YET ANOTHER pouring of emotions with a TICKING CLOCK. (Attack of the writing room shrink... AGAIN.) At least Burnham bothered to acknowledge that it wasn't the best time for that. (I was genuinely shocked she even had enough professionalism and remembrance of Starfleet training to actually say that.) Hey, writers... maybe you should pay attention to what even the CHARACTER HERSELF said. You couldn't spare us this for JUST ONE EPISODE?!
I was glad we got to learn a bit about the Breen, and they started off well in DISCO... but they have been given a huge disservice these last two episodes. Last week, they can't make up their minds about L'ak. He was an outcast on that ship when we first learn of him, then all of a sudden he is a revered figure, to the point that they follow his wife, who is not even Breen, to possible war. (Given their clear bias against anyone that isn't Breen, this is just too unbelievable.) And this week, they seem to let EVERYONE in the galaxy know that a HUMAN is in charge of a BREEN faction. What happened to the race that was so secretive no one even knew about their physiology? Or the clear xenophobia and disgust they have of other races that has been shown repeatedly this season? I actually preferred them on DS9... mysterious to the point where you don't even know what they are saying.
Overall, it was a good episode that had some things I just found unbelievable. The pacing and tight direction really helped here. I give it an 8.
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