Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 4x08 - "All In"

[Amaris]

Did Michael KO the guy who Owo struggled to put down, in one punch? That pissed me off, because it makes Owo look weak.

Nope. Book hit him, knocking him into the table, and then Michael punched him when he started to stand back up. I remember because I rewound it and watched it again. Satisfying.

Rest of the episode was fine. Nothing special, but fine. Loved the Changling sequence. Coulda dialled back the constant overwhelming positive reinforcements between the crew a little.

Not entirely sure why Michael didn't just grab the Isowhateverium and teleport back to the shuttle at the end.

Michael pulling some [babble] out her ass at the end and everyone's like, "OMG YES OF COURSE, [BABBLE] EXPLAINS EVERYTHING" was cringe. That badly needed setup.

Curious about these unknown aliens and not entirely sure why they haven't just jumped to their front door and hailed them yet.

A good question. I suspect we'll find out very soon.

 

[Yistaan]

Too bad they haven't figured out transwarp beaming by the 32nd century. Just beam back the mcguffin with the tracker on it and Book and Tarka are foiled.

 

[Deks]

Remind me never to invite people in this thread to a support group.

I'd actually dread going into a support group filled with overtly emotional people who cannot look at a situation objectively.
I'd like to hear both sides for one thing... not just constant wishy washy nonsense that paints the situation in a ridiculously unrealistic way and tells you 'everything will be allright' when they just don't know.
Its one thing to provide encouragement, but it doesn't have to come in the form of insicerity or wishful thinking.

Too bad they haven't figured out transwarp beaming by the 32nd century. Just beam back the mcguffin with the tracker on it and Book and Tarka are foiled.

Spock said in the Kelvin timeline that Montgommery Scott came up with equations for TW beaming (he gave the equation to younger Scotty after all).
So, they DID figured it out by the late 24th century... its just this technology was apparently never used (or it was ignored) for some reason (in fact, this tech alone easily bypasses the Burn when you think about it).

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

Changelings have indeed changed, this episode is evidence for the founders being less isolationist in the 32nd century and spending time outside of the great link for personal reasons, which was rarely done in the 24th century-with founders leaving the link only for official dominion business(as per the STA Gamma Quadrant handbook)

How do you know that is now something that is now common in Founder society. He could be a blacksheep/outcast or one of the 100

 

[SG-17]

700 years is a long time for a society to change that suffered a devastating, foundation shaking event, especially if Weyoun 8 wasn't just blustering and the Dominion hadn't lost a war in 10,000 years.

 

[jos3s]

All they needed to say was "Zora(or Stamets) found something interesting while analyzing the data". Having the person who's been off on an adventure all episode suddenly guess what they should be looking for was lame.

I believe you've never had the moment when you're trying to solve a problem and get stuck and can't move forward, but an outsider arrives and can see the details you missed

 

[Therin of Andor]

Did Michael KO the guy who Owo struggled to put down, in one punch? That pissed me off, because it makes Owo look weak.

She never looked weak.

 

[Paul755]

700 years is a long time for a society to change that suffered a devastating, foundation shaking event, especially if Weyoun 8 wasn't just blustering and the Dominion hadn't lost a war in 10,000 years.

not to mention the influence of Odo. He probably made other changlings curious about life outside of the link.

 

[Guy Gardener]

She never looked weak.

Owo totally looked weak.

And MIchael looked like she was going to let her friend get beaten to death.

Also they were both lying.

Owo lost on purpose twice, so that that the odds raised to 45:1.

It's called hustling.

Owo and Michael are hustlers.

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

Burnham knocked him down with one punch after Book and Owo had both beaten him up first (without any struggle).

 

[Harpsichord]

I believe you've never had the moment when you're trying to solve a problem and get stuck and can't move forward, but an outsider arrives and can see the details you missed

I'm not saying it's unrealistic, I just didn't like that the main driver of the A-plot was the one strolled up and solved the B-plot (if you can even call it that). Saru and Culber did almost nothing, throw 'em a bone Disco writers.

 

[PlainSimpleJoel]

Pretty much meh. Did have google who was playing Haz Mazaro, who I recognised that voice.

 

[Photoman15]

Remind me never to invite people in this thread to a support group.

Support Group!? I wouldn't invite them to an execution. Too rough for the room.

 

[Annorax849]

As usual my favorite part is when they actually talk about Species 10C.
"If the DMA is mining equipment, what are their weapons?"

 

[Vger23]

They mention the Galactic Barrier in pretty much every episode. If they don’t show it before the season ends I’m going to run around naked covered in chicken blood while drinking Jolt cola in front of Alex Kurtzman’s house.

 

[Mutai Sho-Rin]

They mention the Galactic Barrier in pretty much every episode. If they don’t show it before the season ends I’m going to run around naked covered in chicken blood while drinking Jolt cola in front of Alex Kurtzman’s house.

Video evidence required.

 

[Yistaan]

So, they DID figured it out by the late 24th century... its just this technology was apparently never used (or it was ignored) for some reason (in fact, this tech alone easily bypasses the Burn when you think about it).

Unless dilithium powers transporters too.

 

[DaveyNY]

Changelings have indeed changed, this episode is evidence for the founders being less isolationist in the 32nd century and spending time outside of the great link for personal reasons

I think perhaps you're forgetting the 100 Changelings that left the Founders the same time that Odo did, and were spread across the galaxy.

 

[cultcross]

A pretty uninspiring offering as the return episode, filled with cliches and a strange very quickly disposed of subplot with Culber. It wasn't terrible, the dialogue was better than it has been, but it lacked anything that we haven't seen many times before on Trek or elsewhere and all hinged on this underexplained setup where Michael and Owo could take down the big muscle man no problem but couldn't grab Risian Dr McKay and get him back to the shuttle. They don't need to stop Book, he doesn't have the weapon by himself so he's no threat.


Omega particles is the answer then, what we'd guessed for season 3 emerges in season 4.

 

[Andyliini]

I enjoyed watching this episode. Certainly was not the best episode around, but certainly not the worst either. I enjoyed the bar scenes alot and was thrilled to see a changeling once again, who even transformed into a tribble. The casino master was my favorite character from this episode, the actor seemingly had equally fun playing him. Something was off about Owosekun, though. She seemed older than usual for some reason, perhaps it was the lighting or something.

I wonder how this will go. Book and Tarka will be stopped, of course, but there must be some kind of a sacrifice before they see the light, if they ever do.

8/10 from me.