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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x13 - "That Hope Is You, Part 2"

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I think Season 4 would be really helped honestly with an outsider joining the crew who acts as a mild antagonist to Burnham. A Seven to her Janeway basically, who comes in, doesn't totally obey orders, and generally stinks up the joint. It would be intriguing because the shoe would be on the other foot for Michael. Instead of being the rebellious junior officer, now she has to learn to deal with a rebellious junior officer herself.

If they keep the same "supportive circle of friends" vibe with the bridge crew they had this season, it's going to be intolerably boring.
I agree. Georgiou was the closest, but even she loved Michael and would side with her no matter what.
 
I already miss Georgiou. I think they do need to bring in someone else who creates a little tension and mild dissent. I’d happily see Adira written off and replaced with a more dynamic character. I liked them to begin with, but the character ended up being something of a non-entity (which is ironic considering Trill are basically multiple entities). I’m glad they didn’t kill off Book as I expected. I’d like to see him stick around if only because he was this season’s eye candy and his relationship with Burnham was one of surprisingly few times a Trek couple had actual chemistry.
 
I already miss Georgiou. I think they do need to bring in someone else who creates a little tension and mild dissent. I’d happily see Adira written off and replaced with a more dynamic character. I liked them to begin with, but the character ended up being something of a non-entity (which is ironic considering Trill are basically multiple entities). I’m glad they didn’t kill off Book as I expected. I’d like to see him stick around if only because he was this season’s eye candy and his relationship with Burnham was one of surprisingly few times a Trek couple had actual chemistry.


Well, maybe the holodeck can recreate Georgiou, I mean if it can give life to Gray Tal who's essentially a figment of Adira's imagination then why not?
 
To me "Genocide of the Borg" makes about as much sense as genocide of cancer, or AIDS... Every member of the Borg would choose to be his/her former self if they could.

Yeah, prior to "I, Borg", I wouldn't have been very hard on Nechayev for backing that play. But after, when the Federation has very strong indications, if not hard proof, that enslaved Borg will regain their individuality once freed, even after long-term immersion in the collective... yeah, that's a bad look for the Federation, and worse for one of their admirals to get self-righteous about it.
 
I never had a problem with Admiral Necheyev. Yeah she was tough and straight-talking but there you go - not everything is all sunshine and rainbows is it?

The Borg in particular were a horrific threat to the Federation, arguably the greatest threat it had ever faced as of the 2360s and it was Starfleet's responsibility to defend against them.
 
Yeah, prior to "I, Borg", I wouldn't have been very hard on Nechayev for backing that play. But after, when the Federation has very strong indications, if not hard proof, that enslaved Borg will regain their individuality once freed, even after long-term immersion in the collective... yeah, that's a bad look for the Federation, and worse for one of their admirals to get self-righteous about it.


So how did you feel when Picard machine-gunned two of his crewmen that had just been assimilated?
 
I never had a problem with Admiral Necheyev. Yeah she was tough and straight-talking but there you go - not everything is all sunshine and rainbows is it?

The Borg in particular were a horrific threat to the Federation, arguably the greatest threat it had ever faced as of the 2360s and it was Starfleet's responsibility to defend against them.

Well, if she could have removed that stick up her but the size of a phone-pole...
 
Well....yeah...I get it. But she’s also a background character many people were actively hoping would get the Executive Officer position.

I can't speak for others, but the only reason why I thought Nilsson might get the XO/first officer position is because in multiple episodes, whenever the Captain and first officer are off the bridge, she always seems to get the "conn" (i.e. she is in charge of the bridge---she sits in the Captain's chair or she gives orders to other members of the bridge crew), to the point where I assumed she was Discovery's second officer and thus probably the most qualified to take over as first officer.

Two examples off the top of my head (season 3):
  • In the episode "Scavengers", she orders Bryce to respond to the hail from Book's ship (which turns out to be Book's cat)
  • In the episode "Sanctuary", she is seen getting out of the Captain's chair when Saru and now First Officer Tilly show up on the bridge
I think she is seen taking the "conn" in the second season, too, but my memory of that season has faded somewhat.
 
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Nilsson certainly seemed like a more likely candidate than Tilly for first officer. But then again who didn't? Certainly Nilsson seems to have put in a few shifts in command of the bridge.
 
I can't speak for others, but the only reason why I thought Nilsson might get the XO/first officer position is because in multiple episodes, whenever the Captain and first officer are off the bridge, she always seems to get the "conn" (i.e. she is in charge of the bridge---she sits in the Captain's chair or she gives orders to other members of the bridge crew), to the point where I assumed she was Discovery's second officer and thus probably the most qualified to take over as first officer.
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That doesn't mean much, Harry Kim has been in charge of the bridge many times but Janeway still kept him an ensign for the whole seven years. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she had kept him that way for the twenty-six years it took them to get back in the other timeline and was only promoted AFTER their return.
 
Nilsson certainly seemed like a more likely candidate than Tilly for first officer. But then again who didn't? Certainly Nilsson seems to have put in a few shifts in command of the bridge.

It's possible that Nilsson isn't technically qualified to serve as XO, in that she's an engineer who was only given the Conn because of her rank and seniority amongst the bridge crew. Tilly might be the only one, besides Saru and Burnham, who was enrolled in the Command Training Program and could theoretically take Command officially.
 
Anyone else notice the warp jump at the end was straight out of the end of Into Darkness? Lower Decks did the same jump too in their movie parody episode.
 
It's possible that Nilsson isn't technically qualified to serve as XO, in that she's an engineer who was only given the Conn because of her rank and seniority amongst the bridge crew. Tilly might be the only one, besides Saru and Burnham, who was enrolled in the Command Training Program and could theoretically take Command officially.
Anything is possible.

But you'd have a hard time convincing me than this ensign was the only qualified candidate to be second-in-command of a starship out of a crew of what, eighty-something people. With lieutenants and lieutenant commanders in the mix.
 
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