No he had her watch The Fly and the ending had her all shook.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 3x05 - "Die Trying"
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No he had her watch The Fly and the ending had her all shook.
That's what watching a Jeff Goldblum movie will do to you.
I'll go a step further. If they ever needed to cast Zefram Cochrane again, Goldblum should be the one.
as mentioned several times over the years, just because something didn’t make sense in past Trek isn’t a justification if something doesn’t now. Besides, I’m sure that someone on a BBS in 2000 noticed it didn’t make sense and someone else pointed out something on TNG that didn’t.
Yeah, on that scene they’re currently best friends while on the last two seasons they were barely in the room together a couple of times...I guess it happened when we were not looking.
By the way, is this the first time Culber is called to the bridge? And why do they call him on the bridge, by the way, the transporter room should make more sense (ah, right, Discovery persists in the anachronistic use of the transporter when they beam in and out any room on a early 23rd century ship)?
Noticed that and seems small indeed.
I don’t care from either
But the original Discovery uniforms at least are a logical progression from Enterprise...Still I wish they had all started wearing the new Pike uniforms las year.
I think we’ll discover that the lullaby ties to her.
very unclear. We’ll see.
I really hope not!!!
the most logical thing would be if he was Terran...But do the writers remember about the never seen before and never referenced after eyes issue terrans are now supposed to have but Philippa clearly isn’t bothered by? Him being an hologram is as a good guess that any, I imagine.
as mentioned several times over the years, just because something didn’t make sense in past Trek isn’t a justification if something doesn’t now. Besides, I’m sure that someone on a BBS in 2000 noticed it didn’t make sense and someone else pointed out something on TNG that didn’t.
Yeah, on that scene they’re currently best friends while on the last two seasons they were barely in the room together a couple of times...I guess it happened when we were not looking.
By the way, is this the first time Culber is called to the bridge? And why do they call him on the bridge, by the way, the transporter room should make more sense (ah, right, Discovery persists in the anachronistic use of the transporter when they beam in and out any room on a early 23rd century ship)?
Noticed that and seems small indeed.
I don’t care from either
But the original Discovery uniforms at least are a logical progression from Enterprise...Still I wish they had all started wearing the new Pike uniforms las year.
I think we’ll discover that the lullaby ties to her.
very unclear. We’ll see.
I really hope not!!!
the most logical thing would be if he was Terran...But do the writers remember about the never seen before and never referenced after eyes issue terrans are now supposed to have but Philippa clearly isn’t bothered by? Him being an hologram is as a good guess that any, I imagine.
10. amazing to have that level of quality back to back. They really have their footing now. I'm sure we'll see Nhan again. I wonder what Tal is up to.
So.. at some point DIscovery gets parked in that ion storm cloud thing for 1000 years or more
The other point was that, it is clear they do still have scientists and still try to maintain things like the seed vault, but they may specialize a lot more now. 23rd-24th century Starfleet officers were specialist-generalists. They were good at one thing but could adapt and use expertise in many related fields. That may not be the case now. They may not have the luxury to train people for that.
So.. at some point DIscovery gets parked in that ion storm cloud thing for 1000 years or more
Plus some Starfleet ships reuse a name but with a completely new registry. Intrepid has been reused at least five times with new registry numbers each time. The next Discovery and the next Defiant got new registry numbers too. Maybe you have to have an extremely historical ship to qualify for reusing an old one.
I agree with you on a lot of points, but I think the point of having to explain the CME to a security officer was two-fold. One, as with the later days of the Galactic Empire in Asimov's Foundation novels, the people of this period are not discoverers. They are appliance users, and they probably can't design new appliances. They may be doing all they can to even keep what they have in repair. All those fancy Starfleet ships are types we saw destroyed 120 years earlier. If we use Dark Age to mean a localized or rationalized period of technological regression and stagnation, I think the term fits.
The other point was that, it is clear they do still have scientists and still try to maintain things like the seed vault, but they may specialize a lot more now. 23rd-24th century Starfleet officers were specialist-generalists. They were good at one thing but could adapt and use expertise in many related fields. That may not be the case now. They may not have the luxury to train people for that.
Excellent episode, liked it a lot. gave it a 9
I have always liked Oded Fehr. Glad to see that he is playing a recurring character.
Now we know why Nhan was moved to Discovery and got more screen time. Good planning by the writing staff. The goodbye scene between her and Burnham was nicely done and touching.
2 new mysteries were added: something is off with Georgiou, and the piece of music that everyone seems to know.
I am sure the new Starfleet ships will be analyzed to death but I didn't pay much attention to them since they were not relevant to the story. OK, I did notice the Voyager one since it was actually mentioned by the crew.
Next week we will finally see the bearded Andorian.
I have always liked Oded Fehr. Glad to see that he is playing a recurring character.
Now we know why Nhan was moved to Discovery and got more screen time. Good planning by the writing staff. The goodbye scene between her and Burnham was nicely done and touching.
2 new mysteries were added: something is off with Georgiou, and the piece of music that everyone seems to know.
I am sure the new Starfleet ships will be analyzed to death but I didn't pay much attention to them since they were not relevant to the story. OK, I did notice the Voyager one since it was actually mentioned by the crew.
Next week we will finally see the bearded Andorian.
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Not quite as emotional as last week's, but still very good. A 9, I think.
Voyager-J made me smile, as did the comment about learning to work with the dysfunction. No, we haven't!
Seeing the crew all excited at seeing the ships was a joy to behold.
Voyager-J made me smile, as did the comment about learning to work with the dysfunction. No, we haven't!
Seeing the crew all excited at seeing the ships was a joy to behold.
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That was a very Star Treky episode. I liked it very much.
I loved all the visuals, and especially the starbase, love that they now have ships with detached nacelles, and completely holographic ships, now that is kind of fantastic. The central structure they docked near gave me really strong Citadel vibes and felt like Mass Effect again like in the previous episode.
The story itself was a very Star Trek story this episode with Disco heading off to help find a cure for some sick aliens that had been traveling, it felt like a traditional Star Trek episode and it was great. I noticed that about that song too seems everyone knows about it but that's as far as it goes. Someone did something to Georgiou and she was stuck like a statue. I think that was glasses guy. I think Admiral guy and glasses guy are hiding somethings from our heroic crew. I also think glasses guy did something to Georgiou.
The seed vault ship was neat, a different kind of design we have never seen before. I liked that.
What I loved most about this episode was seeing everyone's reactions once they were inside the starbase and the way they all reacted to all the ships around them. That was really neat.
Did they change Nhan's makeup? I keep thinking she looked a little different last season and now her face is more pronounced with the ridges above her eyes. I'm wondering if her makegup got changed a bit. I like her sendoff too and she gets to stay on the vault ship and possibly see her home again.
Overall I really liked this one and I think this season is really going strong so far.
I loved all the visuals, and especially the starbase, love that they now have ships with detached nacelles, and completely holographic ships, now that is kind of fantastic. The central structure they docked near gave me really strong Citadel vibes and felt like Mass Effect again like in the previous episode.
The story itself was a very Star Trek story this episode with Disco heading off to help find a cure for some sick aliens that had been traveling, it felt like a traditional Star Trek episode and it was great. I noticed that about that song too seems everyone knows about it but that's as far as it goes. Someone did something to Georgiou and she was stuck like a statue. I think that was glasses guy. I think Admiral guy and glasses guy are hiding somethings from our heroic crew. I also think glasses guy did something to Georgiou.
The seed vault ship was neat, a different kind of design we have never seen before. I liked that.
What I loved most about this episode was seeing everyone's reactions once they were inside the starbase and the way they all reacted to all the ships around them. That was really neat.
Did they change Nhan's makeup? I keep thinking she looked a little different last season and now her face is more pronounced with the ridges above her eyes. I'm wondering if her makegup got changed a bit. I like her sendoff too and she gets to stay on the vault ship and possibly see her home again.
Overall I really liked this one and I think this season is really going strong so far.
Not the Tikhov. The Tikhov-M. The registry is sufficed like every other, so this is the fourteenth ship of the name and sort, the original NCC-1067 apparently having been contemporary to our main heroes originally.
A rather simple explanation for the mishap would be that the ship was on the wrong side of the (amusingly teeny weeny) ion storm and therefore didn't see the bad thing coming...
Heck, the Renaissance didn't really make a difference in Europe, either, as regards the things Saru was speaking about. War and poverty got worse if anything, and kept on getting worse till the 18th century or so. Being enlightened helped a lot in making things worse there.
But it's a good story, and that's all it is to Saru. And doubly so to Vance, of course.
Timo Saloniemi
A solid 9. Not quite as good as last week's episode in story quality but a smashing success and all the callouts to the franchise were awesome. Why wasn't DSC this good last year? Or the year before?
Same reason that TNG wasn’t as good in the first season or two. It’s all about hair, man. Riker grows a beard. Michael grows her hair. Win. Seriously though, the first two seasons are around the same number of episodes as one TNG season, so we are early days in the regard. Building characters takes time.
I actually liked a lot of the first two seasons of DSC as much as this, but the overall arc was less coherent that this one seems so far. It’s shaping up very nicely.
There was a lot to like about this episode. I think I need a second and third watch to catch it all. I didn’t love the Barzan stuff and the resolution was jammed in a little tight but overall there were some great set pieces. The debrief scenes were really good and the scene with Cronenberg was really terrific, and it showed us what new Star Trek could be. I want more of that feel.
He reminded me of Erickson's son
ah, this makes sense. So we can hypothesize that Starfleet uses a letter suffix when a ship is directly carrying out her predecessor’s mission, as opposed to jut sharing the name...I can totally get behind this idea and even willing to ignore the registry of the second Defiant, that was problematic in any case, by imagining that it was either a Defiant-A or just kept the Sao Paolo’s prefix.
it was always star trek it just wasn't TNG
I'm suspecting that the upcoming "Unification III" will explain why...
Loved the Easter eggs this week with Voyager J, USS Nog and even on the brief shots of the words in Starfleet HQ with mentions of the Kazon and Cardassia prime which i assume are future maps?
Glasses guy who i kept calling Evil Ted Danson I'm guessing is part of the futures Section 31 or equivalent ? by the end when Georgiou was zoned out I'm guessing either he's told her some bad news or has put some implant in her, mention of no contact with the Terran empire means the last contact with them was circa 27th Century.
The Story with the seeds really felt average, which is nice and ok, i think this episode will be more remembered for the things and information on the side that we saw than the actual storyline itself.
Glasses guy who i kept calling Evil Ted Danson I'm guessing is part of the futures Section 31 or equivalent ? by the end when Georgiou was zoned out I'm guessing either he's told her some bad news or has put some implant in her, mention of no contact with the Terran empire means the last contact with them was circa 27th Century.
The Story with the seeds really felt average, which is nice and ok, i think this episode will be more remembered for the things and information on the side that we saw than the actual storyline itself.
Yup. Seems rather tiny number to me.
But that may be due to strict joining requirements (as you mentioned). We've seen federation turning down prospective members because they had social issues they hadn't sorted out (twice in TNG).
By late 24th century the federation had over 150 member worlds. For this number to only double in the next 500 to 600 years seems... Suspicious.
Then again we have seen how the Borg rampage through the galaxy in voyager.
It's possible they assimilated most of the species they have designations for to completion (aka, no survivors left).
It's also possible the federation includes a number of refugee species that fled the Borg. But they would likely be given planets to settle on and maybe even given the option to join the federation later on once they stabilized.
But I didn't get the impression the Borg were that big of a deal for the future federation.
It's possible that once the federation grew to 350 worlds, other major powers may have imposed extra limits on how far the federation could expand., But you have to admit, the number of hostile alien species voyager alone encountered was quite high.
Don't know. We may get more information on this as the series goes on.
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