Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"

[MoonlightSinatra]

Seriously, who voted 1? I mean, really? A 1? I can see not liking it, and it not being your thing, but a 1? Seriously that’s pathetic. Shitting on a show others like doesn’t give your life more meaning.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

That's just a simple pre-destination-paradoxon. She knew whom to pick up, because these people were already helping her.

I wouldn't hold this one against DIS - these problems appear in all time travel stories.

Doctor 5 to Doctor 10 in Time Crash: "You only knew what to do because I saw you do it"

Kind of the reverse...or is it?

Seriously, who voted 1? I mean, really? A 1? I can see not liking it, and it not being your thing, but a 1? Seriously that’s pathetic. Shitting on a show others like doesn’t give your life more meaning.

Click on the "10 Vote(s)" link. You probably won't be surprised, it's usually the same people who actively shit on it in their posts.

 

[drt]

Siranna says something like "Kelpien warriors, prepare for battle".

I believe she says "warriors of Kaminar" - so I assumed there were Ba'ul with her.

 

[BeatleJWOL]

Why did we get Jet Reno having a time vision of the torpedo? Nothing came of that either.

Confirmation of Burnham's vision of everything going wrong. More than one person saw it so it was going to happen no matter what.

 

[ITDUDE]

Seriously, who voted 1? I mean, really? A 1? I can see not liking it, and it not being your thing, but a 1? Seriously that’s pathetic. Shitting on a show others like doesn’t give your life more meaning.

You must be new here (or to the Internetz in general)
That's how any public forum works

 

[Photoman15]

About the Borg in the remote future, either the whole galaxy will be Borg or they'll have gone extinct. I can't imagine a peaceful cohabitation between the Borg and... anyone else.

I think Discovery should leave the Borg alone and let the "TNG" Series deal with them. Whether it's the Picard Series or something else. That's where I think it makes the most sense to have stories about the Borg. We'll now have three types of Treks: the TOS Family of Series, the TNG Family of Series, and the Disco Family of Series. I think Alex Kurtzman wants to set it up so that one set of shows doesn't have to worry about what the other two sets are doing.

There are some novels out there, from what I understand, that address how the Borg are dealt with. Maybe they'll do something along those lines eventually. I just prefer that it not be in DSC S3.

I'm on Page 55 but want to respond so I don't forget. If any one else brought this up, sorry.
The Borg were (supposedly) all destroyed by Captain & Admiral Janeway and crew the day Voyager returned home. There should be no Borg past that date.

 

[Alan Roi]

It was also a bit strange that they said the Time Crystal would burn out after taking Discovery to the future but then Michael happily did 5 jumps around town before she took discovery on the 6th. That was risky. And I still think the 7th signal jump was a huge waste just to say what's up to Spock.

Didn't matter if it was risky or not, she had to do it. The suit wouldn't go forwards until she closed the previous loop.

 

[Kemaiku]

Says who?

Yup, even the Destiny novels implied Voyager only brought down their transwarp network, the Collective was unharmed.

 

[Mr. Nova]

... and a certain commander tucker got problems wit that suliban cell ship if - and only if - i remember that correctly

Trip could fly the Sullban ship fine, it was the cloak that messed with him. Now, the insectoid ship...

 

[Nyotarules]

My problem was, shut the door beam her ass out. Transporter worked stil to pull Spock out of the shuttle, Save the Admirals ass sacrifice a Redshirt. They are designe to die anyway

Its the 2nd time in DISC the Admiral is the redshirt, the 1st in The Battle of the Binary stars, said Admiral died of stupidity, this time said Admiral dies from..oops the same thing!

 

[Kemaiku]

So that's why TOS filled the positions with any random asshole.

 

[Alan Roi]

So that's why TOS filled the positions with any random asshole.

There are just some people you don't want to keep doing damage as Captains anymore. Such as... Admiral Janeway.

 

[Noname Given]

Watched it again and I'm still happy with a mark of eight.
Same things that bothered me on first viewing still bother me, but overall I firmly believe it was a great season finale.
As a small aside, an extra thing that irks me a bit, attaining to the blast door.
If Cornwell had to work the door from inside manually to save Pike / The Ship, then why wait till less than 30 seconds on the clock ?
Why, for instance, couldn't someone have manually worked the door earlier, but have something to jam the door so as not to allow it to fall completely ?
More time on the clock, and once the door descends, and jams, the person who manually worked the door could have did an Indiana Jones and slid under the door before kicking away the thing they had used to jam it.
Door comes down, device then explodes, door does its work, no death of the Admiral, or anyone else in the room.

Or...she couldn't drop the door, and they beam her out?

It's the same situation with Spock...IF he really wanted to go with Discovery, the ship could have also easily beamed him aboard like Pike actually did aboard the 1701. Hell, they even make a point of stating the Discovery's shields are down pretty much up to the point it enters the Wormhole.

 

[Alan Roi]

Or...she couldn't drop the door, and they beam her out?

She was done, what other reason was her to be on the ship at all. If she wanted to get out of there, she probably could have. Escape was not her plan.

 

[Kemaiku]

Or...she couldn't drop the door, and they beam her out?

Discovery is the only ship with internal beaming ability, used only by Lorca, never after they found him out. It was probably extremely dangerous and something he had added with his influence on the ships construction.

There's no reason to believe any other ship could do it, and not without setting off the torpedo earlier.

 

[oberth]

Discovery is the only ship with internal beaming ability, used only by Lorca, never after they found him out. It was probably extremely dangerous and something he had added with his influence on the ships construction.

There's no reason to believe any other ship could do it, and not without setting off the torpedo earlier.

point to point, but could they have beamed her to a transporter pad?

 

[Kemaiku]

point to point, but could they have beamed her to a transporter pad?

I mean it looks like the 2250's fleet lack the ability to lock onto anything inside the hull at all. Discovery doing is was a serious surprise and used by a madman and dropped the minute he was dead.

I don't think the emitter/scanner system is built inside the frame of any other Starfleet vessel. And the torpedo was armed, it could have prevented lock on, or smashed the necessary system on the way through the roof.

 

[Noname Given]

Discovery is the only ship with internal beaming ability, used only by Lorca, never after they found him out. It was probably extremely dangerous and something he had added with his influence on the ships construction.

There's no reason to believe any other ship could do it, and not without setting off the torpedo earlier.

Not true...go rewatch TOS S3 - "The Day of the Dove" (Spock specifically states it's not impossible, just that it's rarely been tried because it IS dangerous - however he's talking beaming from the transporter chamber to another point in the ship; NOT the reverse - which should be easier...beaming someone inside the ship INTO the Transporter chamber.
^^^
And even if it IS dangerous for the person involved either way...at least it's a better chance than say, CERTAIN DEATH.

 

[Alan Roi]

point to point, but could they have beamed her to a transporter pad?

She didn't ask. Neither did Pike. Maybe not a technical problem, but a human one.

 

[Nyotarules]

The missing scene

Admiral Cornwall touches the time crystal and discovers she ends up in a beep beep chair due to delta radiation poisoning at a training exercise. She decides 'I ain't going out like that' and chooses the torpedo option instead......