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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x14 - "Such Sweet Sorrow, Part 2"

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And they wouldn't even have to lie to shift the blame onto them, just obfuscate some of the details. Garak would be proud.

Hmm, imagine if he learned about this and rubbed it in Bashir's face.


Well in the land of fan fiction anything is possible. Maybe he did in some untold stories haha.
 
Maybe the Temporal Cold War was actually just an attempt to reconcile all these mutually exclusive fan fiction realities and headcanons. It could even have ended with a Temporal Synod where they created the definitive Temporal Canon.

I think if any series can reconcile all contradicting realities, it's Discovery. For one thing, it's the first time that a TOS spinoff offers arcs that span a whole season!! Enough with the old concept of the reset at the end of each episode!! Plus it's the first time for example that one of the good guys (Lorca) turns out much later in the series to be a bad guy and a very bad one. It would be like finding out that Geordi was evil incarnate. Before Disco they wouldn't have dared to do that!
 
I think if any series can reconcile all contradicting realities, it's Discovery. For one thing, it's the first time that a TOS spinoff offers arcs that span a whole season!! Enough with the old concept of the reset at the end of each episode!! Plus it's the first time for example that one of the good guys (Lorca) turns out much later in the series to be a bad guy and a very bad one. It would be like finding out that Geordi was evil incarnate. Before Disco they wouldn't have dared to do that!
I strongly suspect if Discovery even attempted to reconcile everything, we'd end up with something like straight out of The Elder Scrolls, where they reconciled the mutually exclusive endings of Daggerfall with outright stating they all happened at the same time and it literally broke the space-time continuum until the Dragon of Time could figure out how to reboot the universe.

Seriously, if I just thought about all the headcanons and fanfics centered on Tilly, if Discovery reconciled them, she'd be simultaneously dating Burnham and Pike, while mourning Mirror Lorca, Airiam and Cornwell... talk about a love dodecahedron :lol:.
 
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I strongly suspect if Discovery even attempted to reconcile everything, we'd end up with something like straight out of The Elder Scrolls, where they reconciled the mutually exclusive endings of Daggerfall with outright stating they all happened at the same time and it literally broke the space-time continuum until the Dragon of Time could figure out how to reboot the universe.

You took the words out of my mouth!
 
Hey hey....

At least Control was consistent and didn't change its mind half way. Got to have goals I guess even if you are an emergent AI
 
I had a thought today. Assuming that there isn't a Pike series coming, and considering the way the finale ended, was there another subtle connection to TOS, where the second season also ended with a "backdoor pilot" to a show they didn't produce?

[Edit: If this has already been noticed, overlook me. I haven't checked this thread n a few days.]
 
I know not many people agree with me on this, but I don't think 5-6 people recognizing black badges should be such a big deal. If I remember correctly, all people we've seen with knowledge of Section 31 have been either Starfleet officers (I'm not even sure we've seen enlisted crewmembers recognize them) or high-level Starfleet diplomats and their immediate next of kin. I definitely don't think this is a critical mass that would inevitably lead to Section 31 being common knowledge. The civilian prisoner who pointed the black badges out in Context is for Kings obviously didn't know what they meant. However, it does raise the question many have pointed out before on why they even need identifiable black badges in the first place.

But it ultimately doesn't matter even if Section 31 was commonly known in the mid-23rd century. After the whole unpleasantness with Control, they'll obviously have to retreat into the shadows and with most of their equipment, infrastructure and personnel being gone, they'll have to rebuild everything from scratch. If most data on them is purged and classified, then one hundred years is a long enough time for them to descend into obscurity. How many people today do have a working knowledge of turn-of-the-century state security organizations that weren't even classified? How many people know today who the Okhrana, the Evidenzbureau or Room 39 were?
you are right i don't - what about

why has that dude a nice and shiny black badge and i don't?
 
Yep Polka leads to sex. Ask Susan Ivanova
She knows how to party :lol:

*stumbles out of a transport tube with tangled hair, covered in garlands, using a cane to stand up while shoving away a Drazi drunkenly passed out on her shoulder*
Sheridan: "What the...?"
Ivanova: "Don't. Even. Ask." *limps away*
 
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