Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x10 - "The Red Angel"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Mar 21, 2019.

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  1. 10 - Leaps and bounds ahead of anything Trek has done before.

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  10. 1 - Oh boy, what a mess.

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  1. cultcross

    cultcross Chuntering from a sedentary position Moderator

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    I'm guessing that where this show is now going is that the entire plot is a section 31 fuck up, that somehow Project Daedalus created both Control and the Red Angel trying to stop it.
    Not really the deep look at rationality and faith that I was hoping for, but at least it's better than ZOMG MIRROR UNIVERSE. So, progress.
     
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  2. Gonzo

    Gonzo Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    I will watch the episode later today.

    Have not gone through thread yet so I am not spoiled about the Red Angel.
     
  3. thribs

    thribs Rear Admiral Commodore

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    That’s the Nolan influence again. They knew full well how to pronounce his name properly
     
  4. thribs

    thribs Rear Admiral Commodore

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    Let me spoil it for you. It’s Batman.
     
  5. Campe98

    Campe98 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It’s always Batman.
     
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  6. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I NCC what you did there.
     
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  7. dinzy

    dinzy Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I gave it a 7 because I was dismissing the whole Michael is the red angel crap as a waste. I saw hundreds of whining posts on this forum in my mind. I hoped it would end up being her parents as hinted, but the final reveal was not enough to recover my opinion of it. It's probably better on second viewing.
     
  8. cooleddie74

    cooleddie74 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    So Michael's mother witnessed World War III. Now that's a story to tell your kids growing up.

    Or not.
     
  9. mdtauk

    mdtauk Commander Red Shirt

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    Interesting the computer screens used in the episode. Some LCARS like elbow designs, a few TOS colours.

    [​IMG]
     
  10. Jackson_Roykirk

    Jackson_Roykirk Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    As others have pointed out, Spock in TOS has been notoriously secretive of his family.

    Hypothetical
    discussion in Journey To Babel:

    Kirk:
    We had that entire episode that took place on Vulcan when you went through Pon Farr, and it's only now that you tell me your father is the Vulcan Ambassador?
    Spock: I didn't think it was relevant.
     
  11. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    Gave this one an 8.5. The .5 is for Spock's butt in that EV suit (hot damn).

    I love that this entire episode, was a massive troll to those who think the show is predictable and thought they had the identity of the Red Angel in the bag. I liked the final reveal and it opens up a whole new can of worms. I really haven't been able to predict any of this season and I have no idea how this is all going to end. I like feeling this way about Star Trek. I really liked the Spock/Burnham stuff, The Burnham/Leland stuff, The Georgiou/Stamets/Papi threesome stuff (Tilly's reaction was perfect).


    The only thing I didn't really like was Airiam's funeral, with the exception of Saru's singing. The Airiam stuff just feels very forced, and to have Airiam's personality and impact on the crew expositioned to us feels a tad lazy.

    Other than that, good episode and really looking forward to next week.
     
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  12. Bay17

    Bay17 Lieutenant Red Shirt

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    So does that set up the idea that they have to get rid of all the modern tech and go back to the very basics, leading to the low tech TOS Enterprise?

    I’m hoping not
     
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  13. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    It seems like Discovery is all about Michael. The Klingon War was about her. And now we learn that all the major plot points of Season 2 from Section 31 to the Red Angel was also connected to her as well. Isn't she special?
     
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  14. Visitor1982

    Visitor1982 Captain Captain

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    Well, I was one of the few who guessed correctly at the identity of the Red Angel. Lucky guess though!

    Loved this episode. Love the moments between Burnham and Spock and even Burnham and Georgiou this time. Also loved the Culber and Cornwell scene.

    Gave it a 9. One of the best, maybe the best, this season.
     
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  15. XCV330

    XCV330 Rear Admiral Premium Member

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    My red angel guess was about 1000 years off and totally wrong and not even a lifeform. That may be as wrong on a guess as I ever have been.
     
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  16. Amaris

    Amaris Fuzzy Logic Generator Premium Member

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    Jean Luc Picard was the focal point upon whether or not the entirety of humanity either lived or died. So nothing new there.
     
  17. Campe98

    Campe98 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    She is the main character of the series. :shrug:
     
  18. Agony_Boothb

    Agony_Boothb Commodore Commodore

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    Wow how odd that the main plot points of season 2 might be about the series MAIN CHARACTER

    By the way, not sure if you remember a guy called Sisko, he was basically Jesus in Spaaaaaaace, caused a war with Klingons, caused a war with the Dominion, was integral to stopping both and ultimately was responsible for saving the entire universe from being the playground for the Pah Wraiths.

    But hey, thats totally different right?
     
  19. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    No, it's pretty similar. They are both characters who were revealed later to be instrumental in the pot of the series.
     
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  20. Timelord Victorious

    Timelord Victorious Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Never mind that Starfleet Captain Who was the son of the man who invented the revolutionary engine powering that ship, who made first contact with the Klingons, became a key figure in a temporal Cold War, saved the Earth from another temporal incursion by the sphere builders, United the founding species of the Federation, paved the way for the Federation to be founded and became the President of said Federation.