Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x04 - "An Obol for Charon"

[DaveyNY]

I know what an obol is, but when I went to google for more information ...

https://www.amazon.com/Obol-Original-Cereal-Spiral-Design/dp/B015NJAQMY

It's easier to just buy and eat Captain Crunch, no special bowl needed.
(peanut butter is my fav mixed with Cocopuffs)

 

[The Habs Fan]

This episode has a 65 minute block on Canadian TV tonight which is the same as Point Of Light. I assume this episode will be a similar length.

For comparison, Brother had an 80 minute block and New Eden 60 minutes.

 

[IMC Headquarters]

I wonder if "Atari Asteroids" Connolly will get a mention?

 

[PumpkinSpiceFoodCube]

I wonder if "Atari Asteroids" Connolly will get a mention?

McCOY: He's really not dead. As long as we remember him.
KIRK: 'It's a far, far better thing I do than I have ever done before. ...A far better resting place that I go to than I have ever known'.
CAROL: Is that a poem? I am confused. Are we talking about Spock or Connolly?
KIRK: No, no. Something Spock was trying to tell me. On my birthday.
McCOY: Oh.. sorry. Yeah Carol, I was talking about Connolly. Spock's actually dead, Jim. I meant Connolly is not dead.
KIRK: I feel young.

 

[Rahul]

Really looking forward to this one. DIS' first space wedgie. It's a rite of passage for any Trek crew

Also, this episode will tell us a lot about the Pike-Enterprise. Now, Anson Mount is so amazing, I want him to continue at least for another season on this show. But this episode will tell us if Rebecca Romjin is a good fit as Nr.1.

That being said, I wish the show would try to create more of its own characters, instead of trying to do a good job re-casting already familiar ones. Hopefully this episode finally leads us to a Saru-episode!

 

[TrickyDickie]

I keep wondering why they can't find some high-caliber writers who want to at least come in and get story credit for a single episode.

I've been wondering if it might have to do with the fact that Discovery is much more of an ongoing story, in contrast to previous Treks that were much more about stand-alone episodes.

Either way, sometimes the restrictions involved are just too much for a writer to want to have to deal with. That was a problem with the Pocket novels. We want this, this, and this, but we don't want that, etc. The more you reduce the latitude for creativity, the less incentive there is for creative people to want to become involved.

 

[Spider]

So when in this season is Spock supposed to show up?

 

[PumpkinSpiceFoodCube]

I keep wondering why they can't find some high-caliber writers who want to at least come in and get story credit for a single episode

How many Michael Chabons is the correct number of Michael Chabons for you?

 

[The Habs Fan]

So when in this season is Spock supposed to show up?

Based on promo pics released a while ago he seems to be in episode 7 for sure. Whether that’s his first episode or not remains to be seen.

 

[Midquest]

Gee, it's good to see that someone already rated the episode a 5. Want to share that time machine?

Edit: Also, yikes @ that review. Mary Wiseman as L'Rell, Georgio, Tig Notero. Some great care and attention evidentially went into getting the details right.

 

[eschaton]

How many Michael Chabons is the correct number of Michael Chabons for you?

Chabon wrote a short Trek pretty much unrelated to Discovery (besides using its set) and is writing on the Picard show. We have no evidence he's writing a Discovery episode. I very much hope he does - considering he's by far the best writing talent now involved in the franchise - but we have no indication that he's even part of Discovery's writing staff.

 

[PumpkinSpiceFoodCube]

Chabon wrote a short Trek pretty much unrelated to Discovery (besides using its set) and is writing on the Picard show. We have no evidence he's writing a Discovery episode. I very much hope he does - considering he's by far the best writing talent now involved in the franchise - but we have no indication that he's even part of Discovery's writing staff.

You seem to be acting as if, though, Discovery has a bull pen of hack writers that all walked of the offices of The Asylum Studios. So far they've had one of the best writer lineups just by resume alone that I've seen.

Chabon: Pulitzer, Hugo, Nebula, screw it.. too extensive here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Chabon#Honors ,
Goldsman Academy, Golden Globe, WGA
Sullivan: Daytime Emmy (nomination)
Kurtzman: Saturn, Daytime Emmy, Hugo, WGA (nomination)
Alexander: Primetime Emmy, Hugo (nominations), WGA (nomination)
Fuller: (various Hugo, Emmy, WGA nominations)
Colville (WGA)


There's more, but that's just what came up so far.

And just so I don't seem to be splitting hairs or falling in for the idea you need awards to validate being a writer (Believe me, I don't) this is in reply to this:

I keep wondering why they can't find some high-caliber writers who want to at least come in and get story credit for a single episode

Apparently they did find some high caliber writers who wanted to get story credit.

 

[Cyrus]

I keep wondering why they can't find some high-caliber writers who want to at least come in and get story credit for a single episode. There have to be a lot of people who'd chomp at the bit to write a Trek episode, whether for the first time or as a reprise of earlier work.

They are using Short Treks for that.

 

[The Habs Fan]

Alan McElroy's body of work is almost entirely really crappy horror movies (mostly direct to video in recent years). Plus the 2000 version of Left Behind. Best thing he's ever done is Spawn, which was really flawed, despite some good elements. Doesn't really inspire confidence. I really wondered why they hired him at the time. I keep wondering why they can't find some high-caliber writers who want to at least come in and get story credit for a single episode. There have to be a lot of people who'd chomp at the bit to write a Trek episode, whether for the first time or as a reprise of earlier work.

I have to add that the some of the best writers to come out of Berman Trek: Ronald D Moore, Brannon Braga, Rene Echevarria, Naren Shankar, Robert Hewitt Wolfe, Bryan Fuller, Michael Taylor, Robert Doherty, Bradley Thompson & David Weddle, had no experience as professional writers before writing for Star Trek. So you really don’t know...

There’s an episode later this season that is, according to IMDB, written by two guys who have no professional writing credits. They just worked as writing assistants on other shows.

 

[Tuskin38]

https://twitter.com/StarTrekRoom/status/1093655468797353984

 

[Lord Garth]

I have to add that the some of the best writers to come out of Berman Trek: Ronald D Moore, Brannon Braga, Rene Echevarria, Naren Shankar, Robert Hewitt Wolfe, Bryan Fuller, Michael Taylor, Robert Doherty, Bradley Thompson & David Weddle, had no experience as professional writers before writing for Star Trek. So you really don’t know...

There’s an episode later this season that is, according to IMDB, written by two guys who have no professional writing credits. They just worked as writing assistants on other shows.

I would love to see Bradley Thompson & David Weddle work on DSC. They'd be a good fit for this series.

Ron Moore too, but at this point if he weren't a show-runner it would be a demotion for him. I don't think I'd want him as show-runner, just writer. Ira Steven Behr would make a good show-runner, though. I can see his style meshing with Discovery easily.

Rene Echevarria would probably be good for DSC's style too, during one of the more emotionally heavy episodes.

 

[The Habs Fan]

I would love to see Bradley Thompson & David Weddle work on DSC. They'd be a good fit for this series.

Ron Moore too, but at this point if he weren't a show-runner it would be a demotion for him. I don't think I'd want him as show-runner, just writer. Ira Steven Behr would make a good show-runner, though. I can see his style meshing with Discovery easily.

I would love to see some of the old writers write a Short Trek and maybe the odd episode here or there. Outside of that, they would only probably return as showrunner on a new series they have the idea for.

 

[Vger23]

Really looking forward to this one. DIS' first space wedgie. It's a rite of passage for any Trek crew

Also, this episode will tell us a lot about the Pike-Enterprise. Now, Anson Mount is so amazing, I want him to continue at least for another season on this show. But this episode will tell us if Rebecca Romjin is a good fit as Nr.1.

That being said, I wish the show would try to create more of its own characters, instead of trying to do a good job re-casting already familiar ones. Hopefully this episode finally leads us to a Saru-episode!

In fairness, though, Number One appeared in only one episode, and wasn't even very prominent. Add to that the fact that she has been a fan curiosity for years, and it makes sense to bring her in for some development.

 

[MarsWeeps]

Please give her a name, and not the ridiculously stupid "Una!"

 

[Lord Garth]

Please give her a name, and not the ridiculously stupid "Una!"

Una McCormick might take issue with that name being called stupid.