Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 2x01 - "Brother"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Jan 16, 2019.

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  1. DaveyNY

    DaveyNY Admiral Admiral

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    Just to add a bit of levity to this...
    The DISCOVERY first season Blu-rays actually have next to Every Single Klingon Closed-Caption Line ...
    (and in brackets no less) ...
    [SPOKEN IN KLINGON]
    It's quite distracting... :klingon:
     
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  2. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Eh no, not it at all.

    They did it in season 1 on purpose, because of who Lorca was. He didn't want the crew getting too familiar. The scene with Saru and the bridge crew in Engineering in the final Mirror Universe episode making a plan was meant to show the reverse of Lorca.

    The purpose of this scene in Season 2 was to show that Pike isn't anything like Lorca.
     
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  3. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

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    1) Stop misusing the word "reboot". People keep on doing it, and it's gotten beyond ridiculous at this point

    2) A shift in tone was ALWAYS coming; this is something that the producers and writers of Discovery made crystal clear and were very upfront about long before Season 1 actually premiered
     
  4. Tuskin38

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    Are you saying they learned nothing from the criticism that was levied against the show?
     
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  5. Hythlodeus

    Hythlodeus Commodore Commodore

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    Star Trek fans are crazy and weird. I'm pretty sure they knew that lesson before they started season one.
     
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  6. CorporalClegg

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    The only thing ridiculous is your continued bastardization of English when it comes to arbitrary uses of industry buzzwords with which you don't approve.

    Here, I'll make it simple for you.

    "Boot" v. -- To start or kick in a specific direction or a desired state of readiness.
    "Re" prefix. -- Again.

    So the use "To restart start Discovery in a [new] desired state and direction" is a perfectly valid definition use of the world.
     
  7. DigificWriter

    DigificWriter Vice Admiral Admiral

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    Nope.

    The term "reboot", in the context of an entertainment franchise, means to "restart from scratch".

    Period.

    And that is not an "arbitrary definition" of the term as it applies to entertainment; it is THE definition.
     
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  8. Vger23

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    If producers relied on fan criticisms to set the direction for Star Trek, it would be reduced to two people whose faces you can't see curled up across from each other in the fetal position.

    In a moderately lit gray room.

    With no rug.
     
  9. CorporalClegg

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    That's not the definition in the OED. You're not the custodian of English. It is.

    Period.
     
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  10. Tuskin38

    Tuskin38 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I didn’t mean say they listened to everything people said. But took some of it into consideration
     
  11. CorporalClegg

    CorporalClegg Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    If producers relied on the criticisms of fans, the franchise would have died in 1968. And then died again in 1982.
     
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  12. DigificWriter

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    I don't know what the producers and writers of DSC did or did not take away from criticism of Season 1, but to act as if they changed the series' tone only as a direct result of that criticism is disingenuous and ignores the facts.
     
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  13. fireproof78

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    Hopefully they have always learned that they cannot please anyone.
     
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  14. eschaton

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    The writers, showrunners and producers don't owe the fans anything, and in a perfect world should just remain true to their creative vision.

    However, the purpose of Discovery is to make CBS money, either directly or indirectly. CBS thus wants the franchise to be popular, and if there are some changes which they demand that the showrunners think won't destroy the show (like attempts to add a "boy band" during Enterprise) then the show is going to go all in on those changes.
     
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  15. Lord Garth

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    I can picture it now...

    UPN Brass: "Just imagine the headlines: Eminem on the Enterprise!"
     
  16. eschaton

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    Apparently rather than weekly guest stars, UPN wanted to have a standing "show band" which performed on a weekly basis in the mess hall.

    For all their limitations, Berman and Braga told them to pound sand.
     
  17. MakeshiftPython

    MakeshiftPython Commodore Commodore

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    I was actually relieved that the got rid of the original subtitle font that was in all caps.
     
  18. cooleddie74

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    Berman and Braga had faith in their vision. Faith of the heart.



    I'll go now.
     
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  19. Lord Garth

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    If they had GWAR on Enterprise, that would've brought me over. They would've even made good Xindi. :devil:
     
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  20. CorporalClegg

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    I think a weekly 'live' act would be a good way for Star Trek to cut through the artificial pretense of the franchise.