Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x13 - "What's Past Is Prologue"
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Great episode. My first 10/10 for Discovery.
One of the (comparably few) things I genuinely liked about this episode was we actually got to see the bridge crew who aren't main cast members speak a few lines and do things. In general I thought the scenes on the Discovery were much better in part because of this. If only they didn't have that stupid "destroy life in all universes" line dropped in.
From the next time on, the Klingons control up to the alpha/beta quadrant border
Burnham invited to a senior staff briefing with Admiral Cornwell. Yup, you know what's coming next.
Some people will piss and moan over a beautiful sunset and rate it a 1 or 2.
Why would those racists lead a bunch of Klingons?
That can often happen that the designated lead or star of a show doesn't have the appeal. I'm not sure any one was expecting Lorca to dominate interest. However they shortchanged the character big time. I remember the interest in whether he was worthy as a Captain of a Starfleet vessel. Then all of a sudden it's confirmed he's a cartoon character. That is just a waste.
It both amuses and saddens me how few people realize this.
Hell even if somehow nobody had discovered the network till then, we know from TNG: Parallels that there are an infinite number of quantum realities one for every possible outcome of any event that occurs. So for every Universe where the Discovery succeeded in destroying the Terran Flagship there would one where they failed.
Which means no matter what the network would be destroyed across the entire multiverse and TOS and all future series couldn't have happened.
I mentioned on another thread earlier today that I hated what DS9 did with Dukat from Waltz on, basically destroying his complexity as a character to make him into a one-note, mustache-twirling villain.
What Discovery did to Lorca was even worse than that.
The same way a person would lead slaves. With force and fear.
People make fun of TNG's science (rightfully so - their knowledge of biology was atrocious) but at least Naren Shankar was around to make sure that rookie errors like this involving the Many Worlds Interpretation didn't get made. I don't think they have any science consultants working on Discovery at all.
Yeah, that's most likely, but that would be an interesting twist if they (MU resistance cell) accidentally got transported to the Prime Universe. Sarek going to mind-meld someone against their will (which is rape - and don't bring up that Spock did it in STVI - that was rape too) made me think of the MU resistance group since Sarek did that there.
That one woman was trained in Vulcan Martial Arts and the other was Michelle “Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon” Yeoh! Seriously, the woman could kick all our asses. And you could tell she was holding back to make Jason Issacs not look bad,
But yeah, he got beat up by a couple of girls...
Dukat had several seasons of greatness. Probably one of my favourite antagonists in Trek. Such great chemistry with Brooks and Visitor.
What did Lorca have? 30 minutes of playing a generic, forgettable villain... and then he was defeated so easily by Crouching Tiger, Hidden Burnham?
Sadly Lorca was such a forgettable villain that I bet the STD fans who stick around won't even care about him by next season.
To quote the Klingons in ST VI, "Better to die on our feet than live on our knees."
Bear in mind that the DSC Klingons, like in ST VI, don't want their cultural identity taken or diluted from them. And Nick Meyer is a consultant. It's very likely that film is a reference point for Klingons in this series more than anything else.
on After Trek the writer said they are starting to form a crew family. At the beginning of the show they didn't have it.
I enjoyed this one, it had a few unexpected moments. Time travel crazy in star trek, who would have gussed it lol
Infinite does not mean every possibility. There are only a finite number of possible states for quantum particles to exist, and it could very well mean that in none of them is the mycelial network destroyed.
It's more likely that this mycelial network only connects a small number of universes (maybe xillions, but most don't have sentient, jump-capable life), and would only destroy life in those connected universes.
Remember where Stamets got that information from.
I am guessing the Network is sentient, so not wanting to die it impersonated Stamet's recently dead boyfriend and lied to him about network and the effects of it dying so that the Discovery would do everything in it's power up to sacrificing itself to keep the network alive.
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