Which is why I suggested we wait and see what actually happens before we get out of sorts!
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x13 - "What's Past Is Prologue"
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Which is why I suggested we wait and see what actually happens before we get out of sorts!
God no
No, I predict they will jump back in time, mirror Georgiou will swap places with prime and be the one that's killed on the Klingon ship, while Prime Georgiou and the Shenzhou is saved....or something like that.
And Scotty.
I said the same thing. Have it be the the very late 24th or 25th century, and then keep them there.
its obv where this is going now. they go back in time. prevent the war from ever starting.
Okay, having finished the entire episode, I like it a bit better. I still think it was very flawed, and I'm rating it worse than the rest of the MU episodes (6/10) as a result.
The good about the episode was basically the visual elements. The ship shots seemed better than in past episodes, and the fight choreography was excellent - action movie level. I liked the twist of Georgiou surviving, which was unexpected. I liked the ending scenes of Stamets navigating the network as well.
Unfortunately, the dialogue and plotting was action movie level dumb as well. This is Trek for people with double-digit IQs. Lorca's character had zero complexity - he was just a dumb MU heavy who was destroyed for nothing. All of the characters had dialogue which was just too on the nose, with tons of exposition and/or technobabble as the plot needed. As I mentioned, the added stakes of the entire multiverse being destroyed made no sense - if all someone needed to do is construct a big ship powered by the mycelial network, it would have been destroyed billions of years in the past, given we're talking about an infinite number of universes. And the ending scene where the "battle lines" updated without any word from the federation was just eye-rollingly dumb.
The worst by far however is given it appears that the Klingon War might have been lost by the Federation (unclear based upon the trailer, as others have noted) we might be heading for a reset/time travel episode. This potentially means that the entire season was for nothing, and they might just do a mulligan.
The good about the episode was basically the visual elements. The ship shots seemed better than in past episodes, and the fight choreography was excellent - action movie level. I liked the twist of Georgiou surviving, which was unexpected. I liked the ending scenes of Stamets navigating the network as well.
Unfortunately, the dialogue and plotting was action movie level dumb as well. This is Trek for people with double-digit IQs. Lorca's character had zero complexity - he was just a dumb MU heavy who was destroyed for nothing. All of the characters had dialogue which was just too on the nose, with tons of exposition and/or technobabble as the plot needed. As I mentioned, the added stakes of the entire multiverse being destroyed made no sense - if all someone needed to do is construct a big ship powered by the mycelial network, it would have been destroyed billions of years in the past, given we're talking about an infinite number of universes. And the ending scene where the "battle lines" updated without any word from the federation was just eye-rollingly dumb.
The worst by far however is given it appears that the Klingon War might have been lost by the Federation (unclear based upon the trailer, as others have noted) we might be heading for a reset/time travel episode. This potentially means that the entire season was for nothing, and they might just do a mulligan.
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Well, you pretty much just proved his point beyond doubt.
Yep, Lorca reminds me a Bond villain. He boasts a lot but in the end, gets defeated pretty easily by the hero. Burnham's plan of pretending to bring Georgiou to him, is a pretty standard hero plan and Lorca fell for it hook line and sinker.
Which somehow fixes the Klingons, making their ships actually look like Klingon ships.
If they reset button. I'll seriously start breaking shit.
I'm still recovering from YoH.
I'm still recovering from YoH.
You are dreaming in technocolour.
I'm certain Isaacs will appear in Season 2. He will. As a guest spot and a surprise twist. That's what these modern serialized shows always do with characters who are written off. I don't think Isaacs will get an important role anymore at this point.
It would overshadow Mary-Sue Burnham. We're inching closer and closer to 'Captain Burnham'
So it's Voyager's Year of Hell done over a whole season? God, I hope not.
This is Discovery.
But still results in a 4 year Klingon war? Is that not canon? I can't remember from TOS.
She’s a flawed character
That's puffery.
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