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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"

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USS Defiant NCC 1764: I'm curious as to those spear-like appendages at the sharply angled middle section of the nacelle pylons. As depicted on the data screen in the episode. You think maybe alterations made within the Mirror Universe?
I was thinking maybe the writers were incorporating elements from 'Mirror Enterprise' when the Defiant was stolen by the mirror Tholians in 2161 & was said to later be used by then "Empress Hoshi"...maybe grasping at straws but that might actually be a nice tie-in.
My guess is that they're Miranda-style megaphaser mounts.
 
My guess is that they're Miranda-style megaphaser mounts.

Or they could be whatever those things on the Shenzhou's struts are.

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The Defiant also has a fin on it's secondary hull similar to the Shenzhou

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But why no gold models of previous USS Discovery's in Lorca's ready room?? #canonviolation #notmystartrek

I know you were joking, but it would kind of make sense with his character, he also doesn't have a chair.

He probably doesn't care for garnishes like that.
 
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Decimalisation of time. Pretty similar to the beats system aka internet time tried in the late nineties. Measurements changed, shows time is...relative.

nonesense - making a day ten hours long just changes the definition of an hour but not how long a day is. relativity works in any meassurement of time. the numbers will be different but that's it. your car doesn't need less gas because your speedometer shows miles per hour instead of kilometers per hour, does it?
 
...so when Lt. Tyler pulls up database records of the MU, a schematic image of what appears to be the USS Defiant is shown but with slightly obvious modifications, then Commander Saru indicates that particular Defiant was reported as missing somewhere near Klingon space

Saru didn't say that. He said that the Defiant is currently on patrol in Sector [whatever sector it is]. They were confused as to why the ship appears to be in the MU when they know it's not.
 
If it is indeed an augmented USS Defiant stuck in the MU for a century & allegedly used by Empress Hoshi, there doesn't seem to be any dramatically obvious change to the known standard course of technology in the current MU...for now anyway.
 
Saru didn't say that. He said that the Defiant is currently on patrol in Sector [whatever sector it is]. They were confused as to why the ship appears to be in the MU when they know it's not.
...you're right, I stand corrected. I had the replay the clip to clarify.
 
Or they could be whatever those things on the Shenzhou's struts are.

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The Defiant also has a fin on it's secondary hull similar to the Shenzhou

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PkIdTq8.png




I know you were joking, but it would kind of make sense with his character, he also doesn't have a chair.

He probably doesn't care for garnishes like that.

The lack of chair seems to be very in character, he rarely sits on the bridge, rarely stands still in fact, when in his ready room he frequently stands whilst others are sat down, moving to stand besides them, circle or prepare drinks.

I think this is either to emphasise his physicality or to reflect his pattern of feeling vulnerable with his guard down, sleeping with a phaser, monitoring people's movements on the ship, acting almost paranoid about losing the Discovery, being careful whom he lets that guard down around and mistrusting their intentions unless he either has implicit trust in them or has them over a barrel, controlling and manipulating his crew in ways we've never seen from any other captain.
 
The lack of chair seems to be very in character, he rarely sits on the bridge, rarely stands still in fact, when in his ready room he frequently stands whilst others are sat down, moving to stand besides them, circle or prepare drinks. I think this is either to emphasise his physicality or to reflect his tendency to feel vulnerable with his guard down.

IIRC that was Jason Issacs' idea.
 
nonesense - making a day ten hours long just changes the definition of an hour but not how long a day is. relativity works in any meassurement of time. the numbers will be different but that's it. your car doesn't need less gas because your speedometer shows miles per hour instead of kilometers per hour, does it?

Except a day (earths rotation) and year (time to complete one orbit) are the only constants...and they aren’t even constant, because the Earth is very gradually slowing. There is no accurate consistent way to measure time just a general consensus. Doe people at the equator age Infinitismally slower than those near the pole? What about the axis shift?
It’s all a general consensus, a rule of thumb, upon which a great many other things depend, but ultimately we aren’t measuring time, we are measuring motion. Then we find other things to match it...crystal vibration, atomic vibration, all only useful because they closely match an existing paradigm and are measurable, and in turn let us take measure. Hence Einstein, hence things like gravity affecting time...or at least the perception of it.
 
Except a day (earths rotation) and year (time to complete one orbit) are the only constants...and they aren’t even constant, because the Earth is very gradually slowing. There is no accurate consistent way to measure time just a general consensus. Doe people at the equator age Infinitismally slower than those near the pole? What about the axis shift?
It’s all a general consensus, a rule of thumb, upon which a great many other things depend, but ultimately we aren’t measuring time, we are measuring motion. Then we find other things to match it...crystal vibration, atomic vibration, all only useful because they closely match an existing paradigm and are measurable, and in turn let us take measure. Hence Einstein, hence things like gravity affecting time...or at least the perception of it.

how you define a meassurement for time (that is what the decimalisation of time was supossed to be - and nothing else) is irrelevant for the concept of relativity
 
how you define a meassurement for time (that is what the decimalisation of time was supossed to be - and nothing else) is irrelevant for the concept of relativity

Yup. But it’s not irrelevant to realising time isn’t some perfect ticking constant.
 
Yup. But it’s not irrelevant to realising time isn’t some perfect ticking constant.
actually it is

to find out about the fact that time is not a perfectly ticking constant there is not difference whether a day has 24 or 10 'hours'
 
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