Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x10 - "Despite Yourself"

[Nyotarules]

I bet Nyotarules enjoys getting offended.

yep sure do

 

[Nyotarules]

Going through life humorless I see?

the manager at your day job is looking for you....

 

[Captain Shaw]

I'm wondering if the empress is Cornwall and she and Lorca had a thing in this universe.
That's how he thought he had the knowledge to take her down.

 

[Long Syntax]

the manager at your day job is looking for you....

I see I was right.

 

[jespah]

BTW, how many noticed the one-sided armor on Burnham? You'd think you'd want the armor on the left, to cover your heart, right?

But this is the MU, folks - so maybe the heart is on the right.

And ...

Spoiler: Emperor Stuff

The Emperor is the MU Tyler, the real Tyler sans Voq.

 

[guyute03]

9. Exceptional.
I struggled with giving it a 10. We are teetering at that sweet spot of perfect Trek.

 

[NaughtyTrekkie]

So I wonder if Captain Tilly will have a Captain's man much like the Captain's woman established on TOS. Maybe mirror universe Stamets. Makes sense to me. If you got a a empire were bigotry and hatred is the way of life, then homophobia most likely would also be a issue in that empire so it would offer some interesting social commentary. A gay man who has to stay in the closet because of the society he was born into. Besides I would like to see mirror universe Stamets because I want to see all the character doubles. That is one of the key charms of doing alternate universe stories. Plus it's better than just having the actor sit out 3 episodes in sickbay wearing contact lenses.


Jason

I don't think MU is homophobe.

I mean, we saw they don't have problem with not-white people, why should thay have problem with gays?

 

[NaughtyTrekkie]

BTW, how many noticed the one-sided armor on Burnham? You'd think you'd want the armor on the left, to cover your heart, right?

it's the mirror universe, heart is on the right /s

 

[NaughtyTrekkie]

anyways, this mirror universe is a bit too exaggerated.

Uniform are good looking, but the captain ones are too garish, I hope we will never saw the MU admiral uniform....

 

[Balok's Decoy]

anyways, this mirror universe is a bit too exaggerated.

Uniform are good looking, but the captain ones are too garish, I hope we will never saw the MU admiral uniform....

Kirk's golden, shimmering, sleeveless shirt with the sash wasn't garish?

 

[Captain Shaw]

I don't think MU is homophobe.

I mean, we saw they don't have problem with not-white people, why should thay have problem with gays?

Also wasn't mirror Kira bi and it did not seem to stop her career progression.

 

[NaughtyTrekkie]

Kirk's golden, shimmering, sleeveless shirt with the sash wasn't garish?

well, that was the TOS, it was quite garish even in the regular universe.

 

[Vger23]

I think it's safe to say that this is the most fun I've had watching a Star Trek episode since "Best of Both Worlds" Part One. "Way of the Warrior" and "In a Mirror, Darkly" come close, but not nearly close enough.

This is two homeruns in a row for DSC and it's only 10 episodes in. That is virtually unheard of in the first season of Trek series.

 

[guyute03]

 

[mattyhugh]

Also wasn't mirror Kira bi and it did not seem to stop her career progression.

I think she was a pansexual, albeit a problematically written portrayal.

 

[Kevin Wolff]

Emperor Pike. Of course he's more machine than man now. After those trainees tried to mutiny on that old J class starship. He killed every one of them before succumbing to delta radiation.

 

[johnjm22]

This show is too cornball and too immature.

Every big "twist" in it we could see coming from a mile away. *Yawn*

 

[HGN2001]

Lorca should be used to switching universes. Jason Isaacs was the star of an NBC series called AWAKE, where he kept switching between a universe where his wife had been killed to one where his son was killed.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

how on Earth can that happen??? Do humans migrate?

Not at all! They could be carried.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Fantastic episode. Hell of a welcome back.

Regarding Lorca...

Spoiler

We can now assume he is from the MU, yes? Absolutely all signs point to it:

- MU Lorca has history with Burnham, having killed her in the MU. Our Lorca conventiently has a plan to presumably get access to the most powerful ship in the MU, that involves our Burnham, a person who our Lorca brought onto his crew against Starfleet's wishes and, I believe, had her prison ship detoured to him in the first place?

- All the dangerous weapons he was keeping in that room of his.

- Sleeping with female crew members (Landry), etc. Something very MU about that!

- He told Mudd that he watched his old ship blow up, all hands lost, claiming he did it himself. MU Lorca's ship was destroyed, MU Lorca being known to have escaped prior.

- The Admiral made note that the sex she had with him wasn't what it used to be, putting it down to PTSD, but never obviously assuming it could because she was sleeping with a wholly different man.

- Sleeping with a phaser under his pillow was played as a PTSD symptom, but one would assume ALL MU captains would keep phasers under their pillow out of habit.

- There was obviously the screengrab taken from Episode 9 which showed a Captain's Override in the destination coordinates just prior to Stamet's accidentally taking them to the MU.

- When speaking to the crew in this episode about his work on discovering the spore drive could possibly take them to alternate universes, he specifically said that Stamets had said he wanted to explore those ideas following the end of the war, something we know Stamets said the exact opposite of.

- Takes Culber off of treating Stamets, now he's in the MU. Culber himself says he is the best person to be treating Stamets, but Lorca takes him off his care anyway, presumablynhoping Stamet's doesn't recover now.

I mean, at this point, it's almost obvious, isn't it?

Fairly compelling arguments...